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   > > > > > > > > > What is the name of this thread? Is it "I died and was   
   teetering on   
   > > > > > > > > > the edge of death for 18 years"? Or is it *I died*... and   
   went to   
   > > > > > > > > > heaven for 18 days"   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > The latter, of course, but the Apostle Paul was just mentioned   
   and His   
   > > > > > > > > trip   
   > > > > > > > > to heaven so I could not tell to whom you were referring.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > If it was the latter, why does Gabe describe his condition being   
   > > > > > > > teetering between life and death, rather than just death?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > From what I gathered those things happened on and off during   
   various   
   > > > > > > days   
   > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > the midst of the 18 days.   
   > > > > > > His book coming out should cover a whole lot more detail, and I   
   plan on   
   > > > > > > buying it to see what all was written.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > What do you think about his association with Kenneth Copeland?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > What association?   
   > > >   
   > > > He's involved in the scam of the prosperity gospel   
   > >   
   > > Like I said, he died years ago.   
   > > Scams are done by fraudsters, false prophets, etc.   
   > > And hucksters are more gullible that those they defraud.   
   >   
   > What about wealthy televangelists? Is it God, in your opinion, that   
   > makes them rich? Or is it all a scam?   
      
   Some are and some aren’t. God is weeding out the garden.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > Obviously the yung man said he was dead, with rigor mortise at   
   the   
   > > > > > > > > fore,   
   > > > > > > > > and at the end he was to be or about to be, put into a body   
   bag.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > What about post-mortem decay, as mentioned by some other poster?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > What about it, they did not view the video, you did, you also   
   heard that   
   > > > > > > they   
   > > > > > > put him on life support systems, which is typically done on the   
   dead in   
   > > > > > > order   
   > > > > > > to preserve short term viability in order to harvest organs from   
   those   
   > > > > > > that   
   > > > > > > are organ donors.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > They had to wait 18 days after he died to harvest his organs? Was he   
   > > > > > even an organ donor to begin with?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I never said that, I just explained that the same process was used to   
   keep   
   > > > > him ’alive’ as for them, I gathered that his family was hoping   
   that he   
   > > > > would recover naturally as others have. After all they gave him meds to   
   > > > > assure that he would be put into a comatose state which helps many to   
   > > > > recover from brain injuries.   
   > > >   
   > > > A comatose state is not death.   
   > >   
   > > Who said it was?   
   >   
   > Anyone who claims Gabe Poirot was dead for 18 days.   
      
   You are not a Doctor, you know not what is clinically dead.   
      
   Luk 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest   
   send him to my father's house:   
      
   Luk 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they   
   also come into this place of torment.   
      
   Luk 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them   
   hear them.   
      
   Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from   
   the dead, they will repent.   
      
   Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,   
   neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > That is the problem with agendized dismissive arguments, they toss   
   out   
   > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > forms of reality to focus on something that fits their narrative   
   and   
   > > > > > > thereby project false conclusions.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Well, you're definitely not a purveyor of "reality."   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Same thing was said to the Wright brothers. And Issac Newton. And some   
   in   
   > > > > regards to the Heavenly Father. And had you given my statement some   
   > > > > thought   
   > > > > you might see the truth in it.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, Isaac Newton was not ridiculed. "I know the lion by his claw," as   
   > > > one mathematician/physicist remarked respectfully about one of   
   > > > Newton's solutions to a problem. The Wright brothers were laughed at,   
   > > > but so was Bozo the Clown (i.e., in this situation, the adage means   
   > > > don't be so happy that you've been ridiculed).   
   > >   
   > > As I said, had you been looking for truth, and you weren’t. You were   
   > > looking for possible points of arguments.   
   >   
   > I already know enough about "truth" on this; I don't need your help to   
   > find it in your ridiculous ideas.   
   >   
   > > > > Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between   
   thy   
   > > > > seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his   
   > > > > heel.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Notice “her seed” a specific reference to Jesus of the seed of   
   Mary.   
   > > > > Not   
   > > > > man and Mary but of God and Mary.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, it's talking about mankind's long battle with snakes, not Mary the   
   > > > mother of Jesus. If it were, referring to Mary by name would be quite   
   > > > a feather in the Bible's cap, but of course it never was.   
   > >   
   > > The bible is not an entity.   
   >   
   > It's a collection of books believed to be inspired by many Christians.   
   > How is that not "an entity"?   
   >   
   > > > > (Messiah to be the seed of the woman). The servants of Christ are   
   members   
   > > > > of   
   > > > >   
   > > > > that body of which Christ is the head, and therefore are included in   
   this   
   > > > > seed.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, the quaint fairy tale in the first part of Genesis has nothing   
   > > > whatsoever to do with the Messiah.   
   > >   
   > > Knee jerk reaction. ;)   
   >   
   > No, that comes from careful study of the tale from a critical   
   > perspective.   
   >   
   > > > > 1Pe 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, be ye annoying, as he is annoying.   
   > > >   
   > > > > 1Pe 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons   
   > > > > judgeth   
   > > > > according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in   
   > > > > fear:   
   > > >   
   > > > You still have to refer to our prayers being "in Jesus' name,"   
   > > > apparently because you're so fearful of the Father's wrath that you   
   > > > have to mention that Jesus is with you when you talk to the Father.   
   > >   
   > > I don’t have to do anything. I do not live in fear of the wrath of the   
   > > Heavenly Father. There is a reason of promise as to why one prays in his   
   > > name. But you know it not.   
   >   
   > What reason is that?   
      
   I hold the surety that was promised.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > 1Pe 1:18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with   
   corruptible   
   > > > > things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by   
   > > > > tradition from your fathers;   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1Pe 1:19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without   
   > > > > blemish and without spot:   
   > > >   
   > > > A depiction of a bloodthirsty deity.   
   > > >   
   > > > > ***********************   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1Pe 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the   
   world,   
   > > > > but was manifest in these last times for you,   
   > > >   
   > > > LOL! He thought he was living in the last times!   
   > > >   
   > > > > ***********************   
   > > > >   
   > > > > 1Pe 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the   
   dead,   
   > > > > and   
   > > > > gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.   
   > > >   
   > > > What is the point of those quotations?   
   > >   
   > > Can’t keep up with the convo? You were so busy with your intent of   
   picking   
   > > things apart that you never grasped the thought of the context. It answered   
   > > a comment you made in a questioning form.   
   >   
   > No, you posted a bunch of non sequiturs for reasons, at present, that   
      
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