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   >> > > > > > Compassion, Men have that, it is integrated into the hearts of   
   men. Ever   
   >> > > > > > see   
   >> > > > > > firemen and or policeman cry? See the horror on their faces as   
   they   
   >> > > > > > hold a   
   >> > > > > > dying child or greatly injured child? Ever see or hear of a cop   
   showing   
   >> > > > > > empathy towards adults who were at the end of their rope? I have.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Maybe you should tell Gabe that, given that he seems to think that   
   >> > > > > someone who meant what they say or avoid playing games could not be   
   a   
   >> > > > > woman. I don't know how he would react to crying cops, but remember   
   >> > > > > that he says Jesus is not feminine.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > It is a destructive sin for a man to be effeminate, why is that?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > We're talking about being feminine, (like a crying police man), not   
   >> > > effeminate like a transvestite.   
   >> >   
   >> > No, you are talking about something you know little of.   
   >> > You know as much about being a woman as the last democratic VP wannabe   
   knows   
   >> > about being a man.   
   >>   
   >> What are we supposedly missing?   
   >   
   >If you are speaking of yourself? Understanding.   
      
   Understanding of what?  That's kind of a vague accusation -- maybe   
   it's you that's lacking in understanding here.   
      
   >> > > > > > So I don’t understand where you are coming from. Men were created   
   in   
   >> > > > > > the   
   >> > > > > > image of God, with all of his attributes, but in the realm of this   
   >> > > > > > world.   
   >> > > > > > We   
   >> > > > > > were created less than the angels. Within us is the female DNA,   
   as it   
   >> > > > > > were.   
   >> > > > > > Typically, females have two X chromosomes, while males have one X   
   and   
   >> > > > > > one   
   >> > > > > > Y   
   >> > > > > > chromosome. So obviously men had with in them the same attributes   
   as   
   >> > > > > > women   
   >> > > > > > of   
   >> > > > > > the 23 pairs of Chromosomes except for the pair that determined   
   the male   
   >> > > > > > of   
   >> > > > > > female bodily differences. And she was cloned as such so as to me   
   a   
   >> > > > > > helpmate   
   >> > > > > > to man.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Again, a clone could not be a different sex from what it's being   
   >> > > > > cloned from. So if Eve was a clone of Adam, she would have to be a   
   >> > > > > male.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Not at all.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and   
   he   
   >> > > > slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead   
   >> > > > thereof;   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a   
   >> > > > woman,   
   >> > > > and brought her unto the man.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my   
   >> > > > flesh:   
   >> > > > she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > The Bible never says she was a clone, anymore than saying men are made   
   >> > > of mud; that was you that claimed that, and that's what I was   
   >> > > debunking.   
   >> >   
   >> > She was rebuilt into a woman, from a bone, the process is the same as   
   >> > cloning.verb, not noun.   
   >>   
   >> If you insist that the Bible says Eve was a clone of Adam, you'll just   
   >> have to face the fact that the Bible is wrong on this.   
   >   
   >Adam had X and Y in him. Eve had XX Men carry both genes that is why their   
   >babies can be either male of female.   
   >   
   >In regards to cloning as done by man here are the various forms of it.   
   >https://bio.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Introductory_and_General_Biology/Gener   
   >al_Biology_(Boundless)/17%3A_Biotechnology_and_Genomics/17.01%3A_Biotechnolog   
   >y/17.1D%3A_Reproductive_Cloning   
   >   
   >While it is not the last word or even complete word on cloning, it should   
   >open up you mind to help you be more aware of what cloning is and does, as   
   >well as why.   
      
   I know cloning exists.  I'm just saying a genetically a identical   
   clone can't be a different sex than what's cloned from. The   
   Y-chromosome in a female clone of a male would be missing, which would   
   make the female "clone" genetically different from the male, i.e., not   
   strictly speaking a *genetically identical* clone.   
      
   >Again reading comprehension requires contextual understandings and not bit   
   >parsing to fit ones agenda.   
      
   You keep going back to this "agenda" thing.  I don't have any more of   
   an agenda as an atheist, than you do as a Christian in this   
   discussion.   
      
   >> > > > > > > > > So what's wrong with being soft or nice? And are women   
   prone to   
   >> > > > > > > > > "playing games", more so then men? Do women not mean what   
   they say?   
   >> > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > He also is Love. PURE Love, and he knows what the intent of   
   our heart   
   >> > > > > > > > is.   
   >> > > > > > > > Thank you for your honestly in your reply, and what you   
   described was   
   >> > > > > > > > your   
   >> > > > > > > > own thoughts.   
   >> > > > > > > > I would never have thought that, and there is no reason for   
   anyone to.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > What are you talking about?   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Reflecting on your comment. As I cannot see your point made, nor   
   your   
   >> > > > > > reasoning there.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Maybe you should reflect a little more before you post.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > I was rough and tough, in this life, yet with women, and   
   children I   
   >> > > > > > > > was   
   >> > > > > > > > gentle and kind, Karen’s were given another chance ;) but if   
   they   
   >> > > > > > > > persisted   
   >> > > > > > > > I would let them be. I would be understanding with men as   
   well when   
   >> > > > > > > > they   
   >> > > > > > > > were   
   >> > > > > > > > genuinely going through a rough time. But not with whiners,   
   wimps, or   
   >> > > > > > > > bullies of others. So I guess my outlook was a lot different   
   than   
   >> > > > > > > > yours.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > Do you think women are wimps?   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Some are, but what is your point?   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > I'm trying to determine whether you share Gabe's evident belief that   
   >> > > > > women are somehow less than men. Some women are wimps, but as a rule   
   >> > > > > do they tend to be wimps, in your view?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Why do you always operate in the accusative. There is no reason for   
   you to   
   >> > > > think that of Gabe or myself.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > I wasn't "thinking that", I was questioning you if you had that   
   >> > > opinion of women. I take it from your reply on this that the answer is   
   >> > > no, you don't think women are wimpy in general. Gabe Poirot may   
   >> > > disagree with you, though.   
   >> >   
   >> > You question via insinuation and presumptive thinking/statements.   
   >>   
   >> And that somehow prevents you from answering the question?   
   >   
   >Your attempt to shape the narration to favor your point, as if it were the   
   >fact of the matter, is a total distortion of freedom of expression and   
   >understandings.   
      
   No, I don't have a problem with freedom of expression. After all, I'm   
   not forcing you to accept my narrative of the discussion, and you're   
   free to shape the narration as much as I try to.   
      
   >> > > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > > *he refers to the Flood as being a historical   
   event, when modern   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > > geology has concluded that it never occurred   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > https://biblicalscienceinstitute.com/ge   
   logy/overview-of-geologic-   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > ev   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > id   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > en   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > ce   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > -of-the-flood/   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > > > > > Geologists know how limestone is formed. That fact   
   alone bears   
      
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