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   Message 94,816 of 96,161   
   Robert to Vincent Maycock   
   Re: I died and went to heaven for 18 day   
   01 Nov 25 00:39:36   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   > > > > > > > > > > Nope. I looked at a geological strata map across America   
   from Calif   
   > > > > > > > > > > to   
   > > > > > > > > > > the east coast, three of them. You could see the layers   
   change,   
   > > > > > > > > > > twist, and   
   > > > > > > > > > > the consistency of layering was only in short areas.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Which would contradict Snelling's own description of   
   widespread   
   > > > > > > > > > layers.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > I suppose it would. I wish I had the link to the article,   
   pictures.   
   > > > > > > > > Etc.   
   > > > > > > > > To show you.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > At least we agree that Snelling was wrong about something!   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Low-relief strata are the final stage of erosion to a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > peneplain (think Kansas in the U.S.)   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > 5. There are no footprints of dogs in the Paleozoic!   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > In what areas of the world? There is no consistent layer   
   level.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Anywhere in the world. What do you mean by "consistent layer   
   level"?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > There is no place in the world where there is a consistent   
   layer   
   > > > > > > > > level that   
   > > > > > > > > is exhibited over a wide geographical area. The order of the   
   layers   
   > > > > > > > > say   
   > > > > > > > > from 1-7 is not world wide consistent.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > They get only as large as their depositional basin. No world-wide   
   > > > > > > > layers and therefore no world-wide Flood.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Think about what you just said and what you stated earlier   
   regarding the   
   > > > > > > upheavals of the earth that would account for certain layers of the   
   > > > > > > earth   
   > > > > > > being on the mountain sides. As in the ‘mummy fields” That fact   
   > > > > > > alone,   
   > > > > > > from you, would dissuade the idea of a consistent layering across   
   the   
   > > > > > > world.   
   > > > > > > That idea alone would render your last statement a mistake.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > If you're talking about the geologic column, almost all modern YECs   
   > > > > > believe it exists. Then they build their cartoon-like history of the   
   > > > > > earth around that concept, creating the pseudoscience of Flood   
   geology   
   > > > > > as they go.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I told you to look it up so that you could have a clue about what I was   
   > > > > saying, instead you prove that you create thoughts that are irrelevant   
   and   
   > > > > from that make baseless accusations formed from your agendized   
   thinking.   
   > > >   
   > > > None of that has been happening. You're just trying to keep up with my   
   > > > scathing description of Flood geology.   
   > >   
   > > Scathing? Surely you jest. :)   
   >   
   > No, I'm quite serious. My word choice and tone of voice were   
   > definitely harsh enough to be called "scathing." Then your   
   > content-less reply had a similar type of word choice and tone of   
   > voice, which is why I say you were just trying to keep up with my   
   > criticisms of Flood geology.   
      
   Well, lol, your ’scathing’ was all in your head, as I did not note it,   
   And your tone of voice no more different than normal. I will not argue with   
   you about how upset you may have been, as I was not there.   
      
   I have dealt with people before who dwell in the same irrationality as   
   yourself, and who know very little about any form of age dating. And no one   
   has any provable long term ability to age date beyond a few thousand years.   
   And to base ones information on theoretical projections as proof is asinine   
   and unscientific at best. While age dating has improve a lot since the   
   original theoretical forms, it is still nowhere where it should be.   
      
   Besides, there is a time period that they know not of, and that was the   
   environment of this earth before the Great Flood. Which puts a kink into   
   everyones projections.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > Do a little research into the “mummy fields” of Wyoming..   
   > > > > > > > > Discovered on the side of a mountain.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > And mummies couldn't have formed during a Flood. What's your   
   point?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > What else would account for them? They are by far the best   
   > > > > > > representation   
   > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > a particular breed of dinosaur including the skin texture that is   
   > > > > > > currently   
   > > > > > > known to man.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Burial in desert conditions could explain the fossil mummies.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Well, you just blew up any ideas that you somehow had any   
   understandings   
   > > > > of   
   > > > > geological events.   
   > > >   
   > > > How so?   
   > >   
   > > Because it is patently clear that you know nothing of the Mummy fields I   
   was   
   > > speaking of. Should you actually look it. Up you would actually learn quite   
   > > a bit, as well as current history, and the best specimen of a dinosaur   
   known   
   > > to man at this time.   
   >   
   > The claim is yours, so you should verify it. In a word, "cite", if   
   > you can.   
      
   I gave you the info necessary too of a 30 sec search on the net, so that it   
   would pop up. There are various sources and links to it. You never asked for   
   it, just assumed that you knew all about it.   
      
   I would have preferred that you found it yourself, so it would not be tainted   
   by your opinion of me.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Let me advise you that should you go online and find it with the clue above   
   > > that I gave you here several times, then do not read what you wrote about   
   > > it.   
   > > Delete it lest it be an embarrassment to you. ;)   
   >   
   > Why couldn't these mummies have been formed in a desert setting, like   
   > I said? Or are you talking about bone beds that weren't formed from   
   > literal mummies but from other forms of soft tissue preservation   
   > (they're called lagerstatten, I believe) like anoxic deep-water   
   > environments or burial in volcanic ash?   
      
   If you looked it up, the history of its background and the miners who   
   inadvertently found it, and then scientist recently who looked into it,   
   everyone states that it is an outstanding fined and different than anything   
   preceding it.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > 6. Metamorphism is not necessary for rocks to fold --   
   just a slow   
   > > > > > > > > > > > strain rate is required.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Nor is it necessary to heat iron to fold it. Just an   
   anvil, hammer,   
   > > > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > > > a skilled metalsmith.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Rocks are not metals.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > The slip process is virtually the same. Look up the process.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > What do you mean by "slip process"?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > The folding of Iron rocks, etc. a shear-slip is one form of it,   
   speaking   
   > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > geological terminology.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The folding of strata you may have seen in pictures are not iron.   
   > > > > > They're made of sedimentary rocks like shale, sandstone, and   
   > > > > > limestone.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You just keep digging bigger holes for yourself.   
   > > >   
   > > > LOL! Why don't you provide a source for you ridiculous belief that   
   > > > sedimentary rocks are made from iron?   
   > >   
   > > I don't wish to rub the truth in your face.   
   >   
   > I don't mind rubbing the truth in your face. So don't worry about   
   > that. Just cite your sources, if you have any.   
      
   https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2ANXRAD/banded-iron-formation-rocks-in-the-pilbara-   
   western-australia-2ANXRAD.jpg   
      
   Found in many parts of the world often embedding better fossils that found in   
   limestone.   
      
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