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   > > > > > > Whatever YEC means. It has nothing to do with beliefs. It is a   
   statement   
   > > > > > > of fact.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > YEC means Young Earth Creationist. If you didn't know that, you're   
   > > > > > really ignorant about the subject. And your beliefs about young earth   
   > > > > > creationism are not facts.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It is not a biblical acronym. Nor is it a commonly known acronym   
   outside   
   > > > > of   
   > > > > certain circles.   
   > > > > FYI   
   > > > > It stands for York Electric Cooperative   
   > > > > Youth Employment Certificate   
   > > > > Youth Evangelism Celebration   
   > > > > Young Entrepreneur Council   
   > > >   
   > > > The point was, those "certain circles" are what you should be a part   
   > > > of. Googling those other kinds of YECs is just a sad commentary on   
   > > > what you should know, going into this discussion.   
   > >   
   > > Having been unaware of what you are speaking of and the acronym used,   
   simply   
   > > means I do not dwell in that circle. I do not use Google and avoid it at   
   all   
   > > costs as much as possible. Yes, I know You tube is part of it, and I am   
   > > looking for other places that are established that Google has not bought   
   > > out,   
   > > and messed it up.   
   >   
   > So you don't use Google. Where did you get those other meanings of   
   > YEC, then? Bing?   
   >   
   > > > > And had you truly been an astute person You would have been aware of   
   these   
   > > > > things and differentiated what you meant right up front. ;)   
   > > >   
   > > > No, I expect a certain level of knowledge and familiarity with the   
   > > > terminology used in the conversation, a prerequisite which you   
   > > > unfortunately failed to match up to.   
   > >   
   > > ROTFL, It isn’t a prerequisite in the Bible. ;)   
   > > Guess I don’t meet up to your standards of an average christian.   
   > > Which then means that you should know everything I mention about what is in   
   > > the bible, eh?   
   >   
   > We were discussing science at this point, not the Bible in and of   
   > itself.   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Rapid burial does not imply universal rapid   
   burial, and there   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > are many types of slow deposition (e.g.,   
   mummification, or   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > paleosols,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > disarticulation of vertebrate skeletons) that would   
   be beyond the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > reach of what a one-year flood would be capable of.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Rapid burial does deposit things quickly when runoff   
   happens and   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > hole   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > or   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > hollows are created especially when trees, branches,   
   bldgs create   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > dam   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > limestone as described under the pressure of deep   
   water are   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > deprived   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > O2   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > and so it hardens Thus trapping whatever is there.   
   Encased. And   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > soft   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > limestone understanding deep water will harden the   
   surface mold of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > footprints, etc.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > That has nothing to do with whether a world-wide Flood   
   would be   
   > > > > > > > > > > > necessary to form limestone. And calcium carbonate   
   mudslides are   
   > > > > > > > > > > > not   
   > > > > > > > > > > > the primary source of limestone formation, which takes   
   awhile to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > form   
   > > > > > > > > > > > due to the small grain sizes involved -- the   
   depositional setting   
   > > > > > > > > > > > is   
   > > > > > > > > > > > calm, shallow water, not storm deposits.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > It sure does, otherwise how can one explain limestone or   
   > > > > > > > > > > diatomaceous   
   > > > > > > > > > > earth, in mountains.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Over millions of years, diatoms rained down on the ocean   
   floor,   
   > > > > > > > > > slowly   
   > > > > > > > > > building up layers of diatomaceous earth. Then plate   
   tectonics lifted   
   > > > > > > > > > that ocean floor up thousands of meters into the air, in   
   mountains.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > From rolling knolls, hills, mountains to High Mountains like   
   in the   
   > > > > > > > > Rockies or the Himalayas?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Right. As a rule, the higher a mountain chain is, the younger it   
   is.   
   > > > > > > > Older mountains get eroded over time to make hills.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > That is an assumption, That is as presumptive as stating that Death   
   > > > > > > Valley   
   > > > > > > and other such places used to be the oldest mountains that ever   
   were,   
   > > > > > > verses   
   > > > > > > the canyons of the deepest seas were the oldest.   
   > > > > > The process stops at sea level. In fact, sea level is what mountain   
   > > > > > ranges are being eroded down to as they become just low hills rather   
   > > > > > than mountains. Troughs between tectonic plates are another matter   
   > > > > > altogether.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Not at all. They are part of land mass. Same with deserts as well as   
   under   
   > > > > water plateaus, Islands, mountain ranges, and volcanos.   
   > > >   
   > > > Sea level meaning the altitude of sea level, not the presence of a sea   
   > > > or ocean.   
   > >   
   > > There has to be a sea, to have a sea level. ;) And the sea level is   
   > > different   
   > > in various parts of the earth, most notable where the Suez Canal is.   
   >   
   > Sea level doesn't necessarily reach the interior of the continents,   
   > though. The effects of erosion decrease as topographical relief   
   > decreases, so the generally low-relief topography of a peneplain can   
   > be correlated, approximately, with actual sea level at the coasts.   
   >   
   > > > > In fact right here in So. Calif. there are hills/mountains that tumble   
   > > > > into   
   > > > > the sea frequently and some of those happenings are created by the sea   
   > > > > cutting away at the landmass as there are no sandy beaches to stop   
   them.   
   > > >   
   > > > That's interesting, but doesn't contradict anything I said.   
   > >   
   > > But it shows your lack of understanding as to what happens naturally.   
   >   
   > How does it supposedly show that?   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > I have no problem with that, and I know why the mountains were   
   formed.   
   > > > > > > > > Had you read the bible you say you are so familiar with, then   
   why has   
   > > > > > > > > that   
   > > > > > > > > fact escaped you?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Your knowledge is a bit sketchy, since it's based on another   
   sketchy   
   > > > > > > > description (assuming you're referring to Psalms 104).   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > No it not based on that.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Then what is it based on, in your view?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > The design of God as written in scriptures as I stated in the first   
   place.   
   > > > > You consider that “sketchy” so if that is your state of mind   
   regarding   
   > > > > all things scriptural, then I would be wasting my time giving you   
   > > > > something   
   > > > > that you would just spit out.   
   > > >   
   > > > Cite the chapter and verse you're referring to, or stop making excuses   
   > > > for why you can't provide scriptural support for your claims.   
   > >   
   > > Often with you I do not quote each one because you claim to know it all. It   
   > > would be disrespectful of me to act like you know very little, correct?   
   >   
   > It's not either or. So just cite the passage.   
   >   
   > > I never made any excuse about not being able to quote any since I always   
   > > have   
   > > it at hand.   
   >   
   > So continue with that and cite the passage you're talking about.   
   >   
      
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