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   > > > > > > > Part of the problem is that you are apparently a subscriber to   
   the   
   > > > > > > > prosperity gospel claims yourself. Remember that the love of   
   money   
   > > > > > > > is the root of all evil, though (see 1 Timothy 6:10)   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > And that is the reason why people fall prey to false teachers, who   
   are   
   > > > > > > also   
   > > > > > > dwelling under the love of money. Give for the sole purpose of   
   getting.   
   > > > > > > That   
   > > > > > > is not Godly. Nor is it of God. Money has become a god to those   
   people.   
   > > > > > > Not   
   > > > > > > that you would understand.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Do you think televangelists suffer from those problems?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Some from their beginnings, some others because they fell away by   
   > > > > temptations   
   > > > > and other things.   
   > > > > That happened to Jimmy Swaggart, and he fell hard, and paid the price   
   for   
   > > > > it.   
   > > > > Yet he truly repented. And died in faith believing. He was even able to   
   > > > > lead   
   > > > > his cousin to the Lord near the end of life, while they both had life.   
   > > > > Jerry   
   > > > > Lee Lewis who wanted nothing to do with God for most all of his life.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, after his "I have sinned" speech, he went *back* to prostitution.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > God blesses his own.   
   > > > > > > I could tell you stories about God blessing me, in RL, and how I   
   learned   
   > > > > > > about such things. But it would be of no help to you as you are   
   not of a   
   > > > > > > mind to understand and learn.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > True, I don't regard you as my teacher. It's probably best if you   
   > > > > > keep the stories to yourself, since I would guess that they're not   
   > > > > > very convincing anyway.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I know I am not your teacher, and I surely would not want to be known   
   as   
   > > > > that. It is for sure that no one would consider me to be one for you   
   > > > > anyhow.   
   > > >   
   > > > Of course.   
   > > >   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Oral passed away long ago.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_Roberts   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > "Even though Roberts was often associated with the prosperity   
   gospel   
   > > > > > > > and the faith movement because of his close doctrinal and   
   personal   
   > > > > > > > ties with Word-Faith teachers, his abundant life teachings did   
   not   
   > > > > > > > fully identify him with that movement.[37]"   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Yet you place him fully there. I am a bit surprised that there was   
   a   
   > > > > > > modicum   
   > > > > > > of truth there, being that it was WIKI.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > I didn't say he fully was, only that he was into it, at whatever   
   > > > > > level.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > There is a lot of misunderstanding about what a word of Faith teacher   
   is,   
   > > > > and   
   > > > > what it isn’t and I know some very bitter ‘christians’ who are   
   into   
   > > > > hatred of things they know not of worse that the typical atheist.   
   > > >   
   > > > Such as?   
   > > >   
   > > > > But anyone who is into false prosperity Gospel will pay the price.   
   When a   
   > > > > persons focus is on money either the gain of it or the rejection of it,   
   > > > > their   
   > > > > minds and hearts are not towards the Almighty God. Money controls their   
   > > > > life,   
   > > > > either way.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, there's nothing wrong with focusing on money, as long as you don't   
   > > > take it to extremes.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > But the best is soon to come and is already on its way.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Why isn't it here now?   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > It is, and it is picking up world wide. Even mentioned in   
   part by   
   > > > > > > > > > > that   
   > > > > > > > > > > young   
   > > > > > > > > > > man.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > How long has it been "picking up world wide"?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > A few months.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > So how soon do you anticipate the return of Christ, based on "a   
   few   
   > > > > > > > months" mentioned here?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > I could not say anything definitive, and neither can Christ. But   
   when   
   > > > > > > you   
   > > > > > > see the city of Damascus destroyed over night then note it will be   
   > > > > > > extremely   
   > > > > > > soon.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > And if years pass by without the destruction of Damascus, what then?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Then it means it is not yet the time. God is not willing that any   
   perish.   
   > > > > But   
   > > > > that they would see Him.   
   > > > > He knows the status of the hearts of all men, individually.   
   > > >   
   > > > So you don't know whether events from the last few months are really   
   > > > and indicator of the end times we're supposedly living in.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Both of them were in Arkansas, although Duane has since   
   moved to   
   > > > > > > > > > > Texas,   
   > > > > > > > > > > and his son has taken over in Arkansas.   
   > > > > > > > > > > Search them to find the reports. The other families I   
   don’t know   
   > > > > > > > > > > if   
   > > > > > > > > > > they   
   > > > > > > > > > > made it public. And so I would not want to create issues   
   for them   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > That doesn't tell me the when, where, and why of these NDEs.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Why settle for hearsay when you can hear what they say about   
   it?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Which is what?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > I just told you what to look for so you can hear it for yourself.   
   If you   
   > > > > > > are   
   > > > > > > not motived to look for it, then obviously you are not interested.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > I looked for it and found just a slick website by someone who claimed   
   > > > > > to be an evangelist. Nothing about NDEs was involved.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Right, and that is what he is. He has many videos, on his sight, you   
   would   
   > > > > have to do a search to find the video/videos. Duanes was several years   
   > > > > ago,   
   > > > > and they are also on Your tube so a You tube search should bring it   
   up. I   
   > > > > don’t know that he stated it was an NDE but that he died, He didn’t   
   > > > > Mae   
   > > > > a   
   > > > > big deal about it, but just talked about it He is not the tv type   
   person,   
   > > > > he   
   > > > > came from a background family of moonshiners, He wa going to be a   
   tennis   
   > > > > start in college as he was that good at it, then he met the Lord and   
   gave   
   > > > > it   
   > > > > up and went tp a bible college. He is an excellent bible teacher and.   
   > > > > There   
   > > > > is nothing bad to say about him as a person.   
   > > >   
   > > > Why don't you do those searches, since you brought this guy up.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > You didn’t read it very well. "and this strongly   
   suggests that the   
   > > > > > > > > > > OBE   
   > > > > > > > > > > is   
   > > > > > > > > > > caused by "temporary, minor   
   > > > > > > > > > > brain malfunctions, not by the person's spirit actually   
   leaving the   
   > > > > > > > > > > body.”   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > I did read it very well, and in fact I support their   
   conclusions.   
   > > > > > > > > > What   
   > > > > > > > > > are you talking about?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > They did not state that it was a fact, just "strongly   
   suggests”   
   > > > > > > > > other   
   > > > > > > > > scientists “suspect”/\.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Going with what they strongly suggest would seem to be the wisest   
   > > > > > > > course of action.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Really? So you put faith in the unsubstantiated words of men? Even   
   when   
   > > > > > > they   
   > > > > > > disagree on it as point out in the article?   
   > > > > >   
      
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