XPost: alt.christnet.christnews   
   From: Kingdom.Kid@kk.n3w   
      
   On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 06:23:52 -0600, Christ Rose wrote:   
      
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   > Sat, 08 Nov 2025 22:38:41 -0800 <10epcth$3379s$1@dont-email.me>   
   > "Robert" (a.k.a "None", "Dr. Who",   
   > "Anonymous", "HTH", "ahisrwic", "Rock",   
   > "KK", "Creon", "Madhu") wrote:   
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   LOL, in a short while we will all be a BIG Usenet church.   
      
   >> On Nov 6, 2025, Robert wrote (Message-ID:   
   >> <10ek528$1lvul$1@dont-email.me>):   
   >> Comforter;   
   >   
   > Note the spelling. "Comforter", not "Conforter".   
      
   Ahhhh, ye olde spelling flame.   
      
   >   
   > "Conforter" is more honest in your case however, since Charismatics are   
   > often trying to con people into believing they have the sign gifts.   
      
   No one can have from God what they aren't given. Plus those with hardened   
   hearts cannot receive what they refuse to believe or accept.   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> G3875(Strong)   
   >>   
   >> παράκλητος paraklētos   
   >>   
   >> par-ak'-lay-tos   
   >>   
   >> An intercessor, consoler: - advocate, comforter.   
   >>   
   >> Total KJV occurrences: 5   
   >>   
   >> G3875(Thayer)   
   >>   
   >> παράκλητος paraklētos   
   >>   
   >> Thayer Definition: (Note: Thayer is not just another Dictionary, if is   
   >> actually a lexicon, similar to the BDB, just not as deep. Those who   
   >> downplay it know not what they speak.) It was before Strong;s time   
   >> IIRCAITID   
   >   
   >   
   > While "Robert" regularly cites Thayer's "abridged" work as if it is an   
   > end-all authority which supports the definitions "Robert" proposes, he   
   > IGNORES Thayer's UNABRIDGED work.   
      
   How would you know one way or t'other? Seems to me he often says that he   
   trusts the Holy Spirit the most for all his understandings. Fact is I have   
   read his posts, infrequently, and heard him say that Strongs as well as   
   Thayer inject the doctrines of men into their understandings, and Strong's   
   more frequently than t'other.   
      
   >   
   > Thayer's abridged, like Strongs, shows all the POSSIBLE definitions of a   
   > word, not the one which is most likely for a given passage. "Robert"   
   > acts as if he gets to pick and choose which definition HE wants from   
   > that list, WITHOUT REGARD for what Thayer reveals in his UNABRIDGED   
   > work. The UNABRIDGED Thayer's shows not just the definition of the word,   
   > but the CORRECT definition for a given passage, based on things like the   
   > form of the word, it's voice, tense, mood, etc.   
   >   
   > Thus, "Robert" regularly shows he is an IDIOT, trying to FABRICATE   
   > authority for his IDIOTIC interpretations, by selectively choosing   
   > whatever definitions he wants from a list of POSSIBLE definitions in   
   > Thayer's "abridged" work, without regard for the fact his "unabridged"   
   > work shows which definition is correct for a given passage.   
      
   Oh the unmistakable sign of the Love of God! Not.   
      
   What you appear to misunderstand the most is, is that these things are not   
   definition per se' but word usages per contextual understandings. Like   
   'Bass' is it a fish or a low note?   
      
   >   
   >   
   >> 1) summoned, called to one’s side, especially called to one’s aid   
   >>   
   >> 1a) one who pleads another’s cause before a judge, a pleader, counsel   
   >> for defense, legal assistant, an advocate   
   >>   
   >> 1b) one who pleads another’s cause with one, an intercessor   
   >>   
   >> 1b1) of Christ in his exaltation at God’s right hand, pleading with God   
   >> the Father for the pardon of our sins   
   >>   
   >> 1c) in the widest sense, a helper, succourer, aider, assistant   
   >>   
   >> 1c1) of the Holy Spirit destined to take the place of Christ with the   
   >> apostles (after his ascension to the Father), to lead them to a deeper   
   >> knowledge of the gospel truth, and give them divine strength needed to   
   >> enable them to undergo trials and persecutions on behalf of the divine   
   >> kingdom   
   >>   
   >> Part of Speech: noun masculine   
   >>   
   >> A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: a root word   
   >>   
   >> Just look at the similarities between the two “comforters”.   
   >>   
   >> And here is a brain teaser for the Pharisaical ones. “Do not let your   
   >> heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.” (Jhn 14:1)   
   >   
   > The Pharisees tried to fabricate authority for their teachings by citing   
   > HUMAN sources who "agreed" with their interpretations. Jesus' formula   
   > was "But I say unto you". As the Word of God, Jesus spoke   
   > authoritatively without needing to FABRICATE false authority from human   
   > authors. Thayer's unabridged work often does NOT support the claims   
   > "Robert" tries to impose on his "abridged" work. You don't get to pick   
   > and choose which definition you want out of a list of POSSIBLE   
   > definitions, without regard for the form, voice, tense, and mood of the   
   > word reveals in a given passage, and PRETEND like that's the   
   > authoritative definition.   
      
   Your words are no more valid than his, when it comes right down to it.   
   What makes the difference is the understandings as given by the Holy   
   Spirit. Even Jesus did not declare his own words as what is proper, as he   
   said repeatedly that he spoke only that which was given to him by his   
   Heavenly Father. Same with the works that he did.   
      
   You? the words of AI and a weak and poor translation of the Bible. Those   
   are your authorities that you use. And all your understandings you openly   
   declare stem from the minds of men. None of which is ministered with   
   *Love*   
      
   Did you ever understand the relationship of the Two Comforters?   
   I found that impressive, Outstanding, as a matter of fact.   
   They both operated the same, Jesus with the disciples, one on one, while   
   he dwelt on earth, and the Holy Spirit upon them as well as all future   
   believers from the day of Pentecost forward unto the end of this age. As I   
   understand that, the Holy Spirit as not slacked off from his Job, nor has   
   his power diminished plus it is all needed now more than before as the   
   enemy has come in like a flood knowing that these are the last days, and   
   the word of God has spoken in that He will lift us a standard (sign)   
   against him in these days. In other words, he will not leave us as   
   stranded orphans any more than Jesus left the 12 orphaned.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)