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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Nov 13, 2025, KK wrote   
   (Message-ID: <10f69sc$2jo9m$1@dont-email.me>):   
      
   > On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 06:23:52 -0600, Christ Rose wrote:   
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   > > Sat, 08 Nov 2025 22:38:41 -0800<10epcth$3379s$1@dont-email.me>   
   > > "Robert" (a.k.a "None", "Dr. Who",   
   > > "Anonymous", "HTH", "ahisrwic", "Rock",   
   > > "KK", "Creon", "Madhu") wrote:   
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   >   
   > LOL, in a short while we will all be a BIG Usenet church.   
      
   Fancy that, he stated that we all are bigger that his tens of thousands of   
   followers.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > On Nov 6, 2025, Robert wrote (Message-ID:   
   > > > <10ek528$1lvul$1@dont-email.me>):   
   > > > Comforter;   
   > >   
   > > Note the spelling. "Comforter", not "Conforter".   
   >   
   > Ahhhh, ye olde spelling flame.   
      
   Typical for him.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > "Conforter" is more honest in your case however, since Charismatics are   
   > > often trying to con people into believing they have the sign gifts.   
   >   
   > No one can have from God what they aren't given. Plus those with hardened   
   > hearts cannot receive what they refuse to believe or accept.   
   >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > G3875(Strong)   
   > > >   
   > > > παράκλητος paraklētos   
   > > >   
   > > > par-ak'-lay-tos   
   > > >   
   > > > An intercessor, consoler: - advocate, comforter.   
   > > >   
   > > > Total KJV occurrences: 5   
   > > >   
   > > > G3875(Thayer)   
   > > >   
   > > > παράκλητος paraklētos   
   > > >   
   > > > Thayer Definition: (Note: Thayer is not just another Dictionary, if is   
   > > > actually a lexicon, similar to the BDB, just not as deep. Those who   
   > > > downplay it know not what they speak.) It was before Strong;s time   
   > > > IIRCAITID   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > While "Robert" regularly cites Thayer's "abridged" work as if it is an   
   > > end-all authority which supports the definitions "Robert" proposes, he   
   > > IGNORES Thayer's UNABRIDGED work.   
   >   
   > How would you know one way or t'other? Seems to me he often says that he   
   > trusts the Holy Spirit the most for all his understandings. Fact is I have   
   > read his posts, infrequently, and heard him say that Strongs as well as   
   > Thayer inject the doctrines of men into their understandings, and Strong's   
   > more frequently than t'other.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > Thayer's abridged, like Strongs, shows all the POSSIBLE definitions of a   
   > > word, not the one which is most likely for a given passage. "Robert"   
   > > acts as if he gets to pick and choose which definition HE wants from   
   > > that list, WITHOUT REGARD for what Thayer reveals in his UNABRIDGED   
   > > work. The UNABRIDGED Thayer's shows not just the definition of the word,   
   > > but the CORRECT definition for a given passage, based on things like the   
   > > form of the word, it's voice, tense, mood, etc.   
   > >   
   > > Thus, "Robert" regularly shows he is an IDIOT, trying to FABRICATE   
   > > authority for his IDIOTIC interpretations, by selectively choosing   
   > > whatever definitions he wants from a list of POSSIBLE definitions in   
   > > Thayer's "abridged" work, without regard for the fact his "unabridged"   
   > > work shows which definition is correct for a given passage.   
   >   
   > Oh the unmistakable sign of the Love of God! Not.   
   >   
   > What you appear to misunderstand the most is, is that these things are not   
   > definition per se' but word usages per contextual understandings. Like   
   > 'Bass' is it a fish or a low note?   
      
   According to him it is the ’tense’. Funny that.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > > 1) summoned, called to one’s side, especially called to one’s aid   
   > > >   
   > > > 1a) one who pleads another’s cause before a judge, a pleader, counsel   
   > > > for defense, legal assistant, an advocate   
   > > >   
   > > > 1b) one who pleads another’s cause with one, an intercessor   
   > > >   
   > > > 1b1) of Christ in his exaltation at God’s right hand, pleading with God   
   > > > the Father for the pardon of our sins   
   > > >   
   > > > 1c) in the widest sense, a helper, succourer, aider, assistant   
   > > >   
   > > > 1c1) of the Holy Spirit destined to take the place of Christ with the   
   > > > apostles (after his ascension to the Father), to lead them to a deeper   
   > > > knowledge of the gospel truth, and give them divine strength needed to   
   > > > enable them to undergo trials and persecutions on behalf of the divine   
   > > > kingdom   
   > > >   
   > > > Part of Speech: noun masculine   
   > > >   
   > > > A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: a root word   
   > > >   
   > > > Just look at the similarities between the two “comforters”.   
   > > >   
   > > > And here is a brain teaser for the Pharisaical ones. “Do not let your   
   > > > heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.” (Jhn 14:1)   
   > >   
   > > The Pharisees tried to fabricate authority for their teachings by citing   
   > > HUMAN sources who "agreed" with their interpretations. Jesus' formula   
   > > was "But I say unto you". As the Word of God, Jesus spoke   
   > > authoritatively without needing to FABRICATE false authority from human   
   > > authors. Thayer's unabridged work often does NOT support the claims   
   > > "Robert" tries to impose on his "abridged" work. You don't get to pick   
   > > and choose which definition you want out of a list of POSSIBLE   
   > > definitions, without regard for the form, voice, tense, and mood of the   
   > > word reveals in a given passage, and PRETEND like that's the   
   > > authoritative definition.   
   >   
   > Your words are no more valid than his, when it comes right down to it.   
   > What makes the difference is the understandings as given by the Holy   
   > Spirit. Even Jesus did not declare his own words as what is proper, as he   
   > said repeatedly that he spoke only that which was given to him by his   
   > Heavenly Father. Same with the works that he did.   
   >   
   > You? the words of AI and a weak and poor translation of the Bible. Those   
   > are your authorities that you use. And all your understandings you openly   
   > declare stem from the minds of men. None of which is ministered with   
   > *Love*   
      
   Nail on the head, and all that. ;)   
   >   
   >   
   > Did you ever understand the relationship of the Two Comforters?   
   > I found that impressive, Outstanding, as a matter of fact.   
   > They both operated the same, Jesus with the disciples, one on one, while   
   > he dwelt on earth, and the Holy Spirit upon them as well as all future   
   > believers from the day of Pentecost forward unto the end of this age. As I   
   > understand that, the Holy Spirit as not slacked off from his Job, nor has   
   > his power diminished plus it is all needed now more than before as the   
   > enemy has come in like a flood knowing that these are the last days, and   
   > the word of God has spoken in that He will lift us a standard (sign)   
   > against him in these days. In other words, he will not leave us as   
   > stranded orphans any more than Jesus left the 12 orphaned.   
      
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