XPost: alt.religion.christian, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Nov 14, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Fri, 07 Nov 2025 23:48:16 -0800, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
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   > > On Nov 7, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
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   > > > The historian Will Durant in "Caesar and Christ" wrote, ""To a   
   > > > Christian his religion was something   
   > > > apart from and superior to political society; his highest allegiance   
   > > > belonged not to Caesar but to   
   > > > Christ. . . . The detachment of the Christian from earthly affairs   
   > > > seemed to the pagan a flight from   
   > > > civic duty, a weakening of the national fiber and will. Tertullian   
   > > > advised Christians to refuse military   
   > > > service;”   
   > >   
   > > The New Testament scripture says that you are wrong.   
   >   
   > Those were not statements from me.   
      
   Of course not, never said they were, yet you used those statements in support   
   of your views regarding military service and wimping out.   
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   > > If I posted the scriptures speaking of these things, what then will you do?   
   > > Deny them or Follow them?   
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   > I follow all true Scriptures.   
      
   That is simply not true. If it were you would not keep truing to redefine it   
   all the time. You would not be changing your beliefs every six months based   
   on the changes created in the watchtower rag. Remember 1Tim 3:16?   
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   > > It is for sure all spoken of In the Old Testament, and I showed you some of   
   > > these, and those were the teachings as well as the desire of Yehovah. (Who   
   > > you claim to be be a witness of as your org proclaims) Yes for some reason   
   > > you declare that you follow Jesus and witness according to Jesus, but under   
   > > your terms.   
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   > To spread Bible truth, no one can get to God unless they go through   
   > Jesus first:   
   >   
   > -- New King James   
   > John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life.   
   > No one comes to the Father except through Me.   
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   > So of course we witness for Jesus, as well as for Jehovah God.   
      
   You don’t. And you know it. You do not spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ.   
   You spin your own rendition of Scriptures, you deny the deity and divinity of   
   Christ. You do not know how he rose from the depths of the bowels of this   
   earth back to life and how he returned to heaven. Your JW org denied that up   
   until the well after the 70’s and you cannot even baptize people in water   
   as Jesus commands us to.   
      
   You don’t even witness for Jehovah.   
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   > > Isn’t that fraud?   
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   > Not according to my answers. They are all truth.   
      
   Just because you believe lies does not make them truth. For instance you   
   think you might inherit the earth, yet you claim that when you die you cease   
   to be, No soul, no spirit, no body, not even a memory to either God or man.   
   But then you claim you will somehow inherit the earth. Yet the earth and the   
   universe surrounding it will all be burnt up.   
      
   You do not know anything about the Great Tribulation that Jesus spoke of, nor   
   the Millennial kingdom to follow. You do not even believe the Bible in   
   regards to the 144K even cannot explain it as shown in the scriptures. So how   
   can you witness anything?   
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   > > Lest you forget, Jesus said to render unto Caesar the things that are   
   > > Caesar’s. And so they paid their tribute to Caesar. That tax paid for the   
   > > soldiers, the costs of the government, the roads, etc.   
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   > It also paid for wild adult parties for Roman politicians etc.   
   > Nevertheless, Jesus approved of paying taxes. Thus   
      
   Thus what? Jesus said to do it, so you have no excuse for not doing it.   
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   > > But WAIT! That is only the tip of the ICEBERG. ;)   
   > >   
   > > What is more important to you, following Jesus wth His Holy Spirit, or   
   > > following the doctrines of sinful men and their dogma’s?   
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   > As a JW, we don't follow doctrines of sinful men. We leave that up to   
   > the churches. We follow only the Bible.   
      
   Then why are you not one of the “spiritual ones”?   
      
   You should be following God, but you cannot if He does not dwell in you.   
   Romans 8:8,9   
   What you are following is a cult. The sad part is that you are so locked into   
   its deceitful practices and its religion that you do not personally know   
   Jesus as God, nor His Heavenly Father.   
      
   He desires a one on one relationship with you an any other person whose heart   
   is towards him, He is who He is, not as you paint Him to be.   
      
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   > > Want Truth? Or are you given to believe a lie.   
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   > The Bible says it best:   
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   > -- New King James   
   > John 17:17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth.   
      
   That means by Him, His Truth, His Word (Jesus) is Truth.   
   The watchtower is of men, not God.   
      
   How can a JW be sanctified? By being Born Again and filled with the Spirit of   
   God.   
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   > James: zebrabible@proton.me   
      
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