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   Sun, 16 Nov 2025 21:06:36 -0500   
      
   Heresy James  wrote:   
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   > Fire! Fire! Pants on hellfire!   
      
      
   You mock the truth, agent of Satan.   
      
      
   > Here we go again.   
      
      
   ..Because you seek to accomplish with brainwashing what you can't   
   convincingly refute from Scripture.   
      
      
   > Talking about one of the churches' main teachings:   
      
      
   Liar. The Bible teaches it. You try to portray what the Bible plainly   
   teaches as if it were some invention of the church. It's your emotional   
   pap teachings which contradict the truth of God's word.   
      
      
   > that a loving God tortures people   
      
      
   The loving God is also a just God. There is no other provision for man's   
   sin than Christ's atonement, that God can accept and remain just. Those   
   who accept God's love, mercy, and grace in Christ receive eternal life.   
   Those who reject the only sufficient atonement for their sins get the   
   eternally conscious torment justice calls for. Don't try to blame God   
   for handing justice to those who reject His love, mercy, and grace in   
   Christ, you satanically manipulated liar.   
      
   Meanwhile, you promote a false God who is not just, and you proclaim a   
   false gospel that claims men can escape conscious eternal torment apart   
   from accepting Christ as Savior. You promote satanic, Bible and gospel   
   contradicting, soul-damning lies. You ARE on your way to hell, as is   
   anyone who believes your satanic, gospel-contradicting lies. You will   
   bring upon anyone who believes you, the conscious eternal torment you   
   feign to despise.   
      
      
   > with literal fire.   
      
      
   Stupid liar. God is a spirit who is not constituted of nor subject to   
   earth materials or physics, yet He remains a LITERAL being. You seek to   
   confuse "literal" with "earth physics". God has prepared LITERAL fire   
   that is suited for men's LITERAL souls and LITERAL resurrected bodies.   
   It doesn't have to be earth physics fire to be literal fire.   
      
      
   > Well, according to the Bible, you are free to burn your children for   
   > serious bad conduct. Doesn't that make you happy? You get to copy God.   
   > Oh yes, the Scripture:   
      
      
   Stupid Bible-contradicting liar:   
      
   1) Those who reject Christ as Savior are not children of God. They're   
   children of the devil (John 8:44; 1 John 3:10).   
      
   2) You promote a false dichotomy. The options aren't A) deny God is   
   just, and agree to a false gospel that claims men can escape the justice   
   of eternal, conscious torment without accepting Christ as Savior, or   
   else B) You seek to burn your children in the fire.   
      
   Stupid liar. You misrepresent the views you argue against. You promote   
   your own twisted lies, seek to impute them to others, then argue against   
   and pretend to defeat your own straw-men.   
      
      
   > -- American Standard   
   > Ephesians 5:1  Be ye therefore imitators of God, as beloved children;   
   >   
   > Of course those that know Bible truth know that our loving Heavenly   
   > Father does not require TORTURE for justice. God never even thought of   
   > burning living humans alive:   
      
      
   idem.   
      
      
   > -- New King James   
   > Jeremiah 7:31  "And they have built the high places of Tophet, which   
   > is in the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their   
   > daughters in the fire, which I did not command, nor did it come into   
   > My heart.   
      
      
   idem.   
      
      
   > - Revised Standard   
   > Jeremiah 7:31  And they have built the high place of Topheth, which is   
   > in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their   
   > daughters in the fire; which I did not command, nor did it come into   
   > my mind.   
      
      
   idem.   
      
      
   > God had to think about it to create such a sadistic place.   
      
      
   Your blasphemy doesn't save men from the eternal, conscious torment they   
   deserve for rejecting God's love, mercy, and grace in Christ. You simply   
   try to delude men with the soul-damning lie they can reject Christ as   
   Savior and still escape the conscious eternal torment justice calls for.   
      
      
   > If you have questions about hellfire, just ask.   
      
      
   He'll be sure to comfort you with the satanic lie that you can reject   
   Christ and still not experience the conscious eternal torment you deserve.   
      
      
   --   
   Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God   
   raised Him from the dead?   
      
   That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death   
   penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death   
   satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John   
   2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your   
   sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.   
      
   On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on   
   the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name   
   of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).   
      
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