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   > > Luk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God mySaviour.   
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   > > Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour,   
   which   
   > > is Christ the Lord.   
   > >   
   > > Jhn 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy   
   saying:   
   > > for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ,   
   > > the Saviour of the world.   
   > >   
   > > Act 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right handto be a Prince and a   
   > > Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.   
   > >   
   > > Act 13:23 Of this man's seed hath God according tohis promise raised unto   
   > > Israel a Saviour, Jesus:   
   > >   
   > > You claim to believe all the Bible, but do you accept these truths as   
   > > infallible?   
   >   
   > If they are translated correctly, yes.   
      
   Ahhh..... There you go, giving yourself an excuse no to believe ALL OF the   
   Bible, again.   
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   >   
   > Isa 43:10-12 is where JW's get their name. It just describes the   
   > present day actions of JW's. We do not claim to be them.   
      
   Then you cannot take their name upon you either. Another false narrative.   
      
   Luke 2:11 the NWT failed to translate Lord as Jehovah, because of its   
   association with Jesus. While they do so in many places in the NT as long as   
   they think it has nothing to do with Jesus. What’s up with that?   
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   > > >   
   > > > "LEARN FROM JESUS   
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   > > Looking to Jesus, you say as the only Saviour, and claiming that only   
   > > through Jesus the Messiah can one have access to the Heavenly Father.   
   >   
   > Yes, that is John 14:6. And BOTH Jesus and God are saviors.   
      
   Yet scripture declares there is only ONE.   
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   > > Yet you choose not to submit to Jesus, yielding to Him as the only Saviour.   
   >   
   > Both God and Jesus are saviors:   
      
   Cannot be unless they are the same.   
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   >   
   > "4. But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man   
   > appeared,   
   > 5. not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according   
   > to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and   
   > renewing of the Holy Spirit,   
   > 6. whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our   
   > Savior," (Titus 2:4-6; NKJV)   
      
   Here is the actual Titus 2:4-6   
      
   Tit 2:4 (NKJV) that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to   
   love their children,   
      
   Tit 2:5 (NKJV) to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their   
   own husbands, that the word of God may not be blasphemed.   
      
   Tit 2:6 (NKJV) Likewise, exhort the young men to be sober-minded,   
      
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   >   
   > So we have:   
   >   
   > (1) "God our savior"   
   > (2) "Jesus Christ our savior"   
      
   That may be the JW take away on the scripture, but read it again, for they   
   are one and the same.   
   V=1   
      
   Tit 3:4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior toward man appeared,   
      
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   Take note of the word “appeared” also take note that it was because of   
   the Love of God that our Savior appeared. Who is and was the Lord Jesus   
   Christ.   
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   Tit 3:5 not by works in righteousness which we had done, but according to His   
   mercy, He saved us through the washing of regeneration and renewal of the   
   Holy Spirit,   
      
   Tit 3:6 whom He poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ, our Savior;   
      
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   > > The big lie of the JW is that they are the witnesses of Jehovah as they do   
   > > not follow Jehovah and do so according the Mosaic laws that Yehovah and the   
   > > nation of Israel agreed upon.   
   >   
   > We are not the literal nation of Israel, and all of those Mosaic Laws   
   > were done away with at Jesus' death:   
   >   
   > -- New King James   
   > Colossians 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that   
   > was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of   
   > the way, having nailed it to the cross.   
      
   And neither are you any spiritual form of them, since even by your own   
   daffynitions only the 144K are spiritual.   
      
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   > > Instead, according to the JW they now follow a man, who in the past they   
   > > also denied that he was risen from the dead, and seen by many men.   
   >   
   > JW's go by the Bible. They go by John 14:6:   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the   
   > life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.   
   >   
   > Let me see your proof about denying he rose from the dead and was seen   
   > by many people.   
      
   Look at the JW red books as well as the green books, also look at your posts   
   early on when you started posting here. Also your recent posts have denied   
   that he was physically resurrected. You stated, when pressured with   
   scripture, that it was a spiritual body that his real body was not, despite   
   the empty tomb and Jesus walking talking and eating. So tell us again the   
   answer to the question about hin being touchable, and how he ate putting food   
   into his mouth without it just dropping straight onto the ground, undigested.   
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   >   
   > At any rate, JW's accept the Bible which says he rose from the dead   
   > and was seen by hundreds.   
      
   Accepting and believing are two separate things.   
      
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   > > > James: zebrabible@proton.me   
      
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