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   Christ Rose to Madhu   
   Re: To James the JW. regarding your theo   
   22 Nov 25 07:50:45   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn   
   From: usenet@christrose.news   
      
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   Fri, 21 Nov 2025 19:22:38 -0800   
   <10fra9u$5dhl$4@dont-email.me>"Robert"   
   (a.k.a "None", "Dr. Who", "Anonymous",   
   "HTH", "ahisrwic", "Rock", "KK",   
   "Creon", "Madhu") wrote:   
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   >   
   > Luk 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away   
   > captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the   
   > Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.   
   >   
   > When the end of this age comes, which is soon, every soon, then the age or   
   > the Israelites restarts, at the beginning of the 70th Week of Years as Daniel   
   > Prophesied. During that period the Great and Terrible Day of the Lord will   
   > be. And at the end of it all when the Israelites turn to Jesus as their King.   
   > LORD of Lords, then it is that the millennial rule of King Jesus will be.   
   >   
      
   It's not clear to me why you did not just cite Romans 11, which explains   
   this in detail:   
      
         “So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no   
          means! Rather, through their trespass salvation has come to the   
          Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. Now if their trespass   
          means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches   
          for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!   
      
          Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an   
          apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow   
          to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them. For   
          if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what   
          will their acceptance mean but life from the dead? If the dough   
          offered as firstfruits is holy, so is the whole lump, and if the   
          root is holy, so are the branches.   
      
          But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a   
          wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share   
          in the nourishing root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant   
          toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who   
          support the root, but the root that supports you. Then you will   
          say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.”   
          That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief,   
          but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but   
          fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither   
          will he spare you. Note then the kindness and the severity of   
          God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness   
          to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too   
          will be cut off. And even they, if they do not continue in their   
          unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft   
          them in again. For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild   
          olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated   
          olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be   
          grafted back into their own olive tree.   
      
          Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be   
          unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come   
          upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And   
          in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,   
      
             “The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness   
              from Jacob”;   
      
             “and this will be my covenant with them when I take away their   
              sins.”” (Romans 11:11–27, ESV)   
      
   --   
   Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God   
   raised Him from the dead?   
      
   That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death   
   penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death   
   satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John   
   2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your   
   sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.   
      
   On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on   
   the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name   
   of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).   
      
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