XPost: alt.religion.christian, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Nov 26, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Mon, 24 Nov 2025 23:30:10 -0800, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
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   > > To be door knockers? No, no, no.   
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   > Your opinion is noted: Acts 20:20,   
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   > -- New King James   
   > Acts 20:20 "and how I kept back nothing that was helpful, but   
   > proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house,   
      
   My Opinion? The scripture you pointed out proved my point. They were   
   propagating the Gospel of Jesus Christ. According to your religious dogma you   
   deny Jesus as God, and the doctrines of Jesus is what you currently lay claim   
   to, You separate Jesus from Jehovah. Plus the verse you quoted states   
   that,...   
   #1 They taught people publicly   
   #2 The also taught people from house to house, meaning the congregates   
   meeting in houses.   
   #3 They were not proselytizing.   
      
   So according to you and the JW Org you represent, you claim, Jesus the   
   Messiah. Not Jehovah.   
      
   That is your claim, the claim of the JW Org. Therefore not my opinion.   
   Should you follow Jesus? Yes, that is the Doctrine of Jesus Christ.   
      
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   > > To be a Jehovahs Witness? No, no, nooooooo. (As prescribed by their   
   > > doctrines and dogmas of their religion) No, no, noooooo,   
   >   
   > Your opinion of JW's is noted.   
      
   Not an opinion, just confirming the heresy of the JW. Read the scriptures.   
   Not with just the mind, but with a spiritual Godliness. Having been Born   
   Again as Jesus commanded.   
      
   Why do you disrespect those you converse with. Why not read the whole post   
   and see what the context is, then reply accordingly. In context. You argue   
   strictly from the fleshly mind. Using the logic of man, not with a spiritual   
   understanding.   
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   > > Notice here too the disparity of their translations, but that is not the   
   > > point for this post.   
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   > I stand behind the NWT 100%. Why don't you find 'disparity' with all   
   > the other translations out there. It's around 7000 errors per   
   > translation when they removed God name, and instead inserted "Lord" in   
   > its place. Shame on them.   
      
   You have made that previous error before, I counted it with actual scripture,   
   even showing you where in both the OT and the NT scripture you have many   
   errors. Erroneous ones of a great magnitude. Like look at your “7,000”   
   errors using the RCC name of Jehovah, and not the proper transliteration of   
   Yehovah, nor have you properly translated the four Hebrew letters and used   
   them?   
      
   How many time must you persist willingly telling a lie with intent to deceive   
   yourself and all others around you?   
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   > > The real point is that this commandment speaks to making disciples of Jesus   
   > > Christ, not of or for any religion. Make disciples by teaching them in   
   every   
   > > manner that Jesus did to his original disciples, not just the 12 but the   
   > > hundreds that were His disciples.   
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   > Yep, see Mt 28;19,20.   
      
   This is where you are offensive. This was the main topic of your post that I   
   replied to below, yet you act as if it was not fully part of, or addressed in   
   this reply of yours.   
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   > > The Baptism in water for the Believer was to be only for those that were   
   > > Born Again and Baptized by Jesus , as scripture says. You can verify that   
   be   
   > > reading the book of Acts. In the various scenarios.   
   >   
   > Well let's see if you are right:   
      
   It has nothing to do with me, as I mentioned the scriptures.   
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   > 19. "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing   
   > them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,   
   > 20. "teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you;   
   > and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.'' Amen.   
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   > Nothing here saying that all baptised people MUST be born again.   
      
   Incorrect. Mass deception noted. Who is it that is to be baptized? Disciples.   
   Plus you totally disregarded the Book of Acts and I suggested. Yet there are   
   other books that speak to it as well.   
      
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   > Rather, it says ANYONE. GOD makes that clear at 1 John 2:17:   
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   > - New King James   
   > 1 John 2:17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he   
   > who does the will of God abides forever. >   
      
   Yet you do not do the will of God. You follow the Doctrines and dogmas of the   
   JW Org first and foremost. It is man that you listen to, not God. God see’s   
   your heart and its intent. He follows no religion.   
   You claim on one hand to believe ALL of the Bible, on the other hand you   
   claim to accept all the Bible. Yet you do not know very much of it.   
      
   Act 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom   
   speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?   
      
   Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and   
   preached unto him Jesus.   
      
   Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and   
   the eunuch said, See,here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?   
      
   Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou   
   mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of   
   God.   
      
   Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both   
   into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.   
      
   There are many other examples. Some far more explicit.   
      
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   > > Water baptism is an outward sign confirming that which happened internally,   
   > > water Baptism saves no one.   
   > >   
   > > It is also extremely conflicting to see the doctrines of the JW and their   
   > > prescribed water baptism does not do as even their own ill begotten   
   > > translation calls for as the do not water baptize for the above reason but   
   > > for the JW Org reasons, they also twist the commandment of V 19 so as to   
   > > deceive its followers that they were the real deal.   
   >   
   > Your opinion is making no sense. Try that again.   
      
   No reason to, you cannot see because you are blind. It is not my opinion. It   
   is the Word of God.   
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   > > They should allow God to speak to their hearts, believe upon Jesus and his   
   > > word so as to have access to God the Heavenly Father. To Commit their lives   
   > > to Jesus, so that the blood of Jesus may wash away ALL their sin, and be   
   > > Born of the Heavenly Father and filled with the Holy Spirit that will   
   empower   
   > > then to live for Jesus from their Hearts, their spirits, and thus be in   
   constant   
   > > communication with God if they will walk in the Spirit.   
   >   
   > YES, done that, and are doing that.   
      
   Since when? You speak from the mind, an unrenewed mind, not from the heart.   
   You don’t even believe that the physical body of Jesus was resurrected.   
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   > > Matthew (NWT) 28   
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   > > 18 Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: All authority has been   
   > > given me in heaven and on the earth   
      
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