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   Message 95,226 of 96,161   
   Robert to James   
   Re: Churches' God Vs Bible God.   
   26 Nov 25 22:32:28   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn   
   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Nov 26, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > Churches' God Vs Bible God.   
   >   
   > They are NOT one and the same. (but it should be) So some comparisons:   
      
   This gutless wonder will not quote the scripture, he only points to them as   
   if it backs him up, and if you were to read them then you would see his   
   errors when read in context.   
      
   I personally have responded to all of these deceptive allegations and shown   
   them to be spiritually incorrect and or twisted with deceptions. For   
   instance, James believes that Jehovah is God, that the Holy Spirit is God,   
   but blows off Jesus as God. He believes that Jesus was created, yet he has no   
   proof of that.   
      
   He cannot accept scripture as fact, pure truth. He is not honest, and lacks   
   integrity or sincerity in things related to the scripture. If the JW Org does   
   not reveal the "real truth” to him he calls scripture an allegory,   
   symbolism, parables, etc. Yet he will take some of them and claim he knows   
   whereof he speaks.   
      
   There is much more that can be said about this, yet I do not degrade him as a   
   person, real people can be sincerely wrong. Given to believe a lie. Does that   
   degrade his being? Nope, only his belief system as he has been led astray.   
   The Bible warns us about deception, and to test or try the spirits since   
   there are many false prophets running around on this earth, mores in these   
   last days of this age.   
      
   But how can any person test the spirits, when they do not have the spirit of   
   God Dwelling inside of them to lead them into all truth. According to the JW   
   Org only 144K such me, no women, and unmarried men at that can be spiritual,   
   and those slots were filled up hundreds of years ago, well past the thousand   
   year mark. If that were true then there is no room in the inn for any current   
   JW from the top to the bottom of it.   
   Plus scripture flat out states that,....   
      
   Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.   
      
   Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the   
   Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he   
   is none of his.   
      
   "Spirit of God” “Spirit of Christ” one and the same? AYUP! If you lack   
   here, then you are without hope, all ones religious actions are for naught as   
   they have no part with God. They do not belong to him. And there is no way to   
   earn ones way through the Door of Life.   
      
   Jesus aka God; per v9, said “You MUST HE Born Again”. And here is states   
   that if his Spirit does not dwell in you, then you do not belong to the   
   Family of God.   
      
   It is time to study the real Word of God and seek Jesus. Not some religion,   
   but God Himself. Seek Him while he yet can be found, for the day cometh....   
      
   1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a   
   thief in the night.   
      
   1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction   
   cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not   
   escape.   
      
   Please read that chapter at least from verse 1-11 and I pray that the Spirit   
   of God will lead you into the truth and knowledge of the Salvation work that   
   Jesus the Christ did on you behalf, and that includes James and all of his   
   family.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > Churches: God is a 3 person **Trinity   
   > Bible: God is one. (Deut 6:4) (1 Cor 8:6)   
   > **Trinity taken from the 4th century, thus not taken from the Bible.   
   > Pagans also had their Trinities.   
   >   
   > Churches: Jesus is God.   
   > Bible: Jesus was created by God. (Col 1:15) (Rev 3:14) (Mt 24:36)   
   >   
   > Churches: In Heaven, Jesus is God.   
   > Bible:God is greater than Jesus. (John 14:28) (1 Cor 11:3)   
   >   
   > Churches: Many people saw Jesus.   
   > Bible: No human has seen God and lived. (Ex 33:20) (1 John 4:12)   
   >   
   > Churches: All righteous ones in OT went to Heaven when they died.   
   > Bible: Jesus said no one ever went to Heaven. (John 3:13)   
   >   
   > Churches: Jesus is God.   
   > Bible: Jesus is the "Son of God". (John 10:36)   
   >   
   > Churches: Worship Jesus.   
   > Bible: Worship ONLY God. (Mt 4:10)   
   >   
   > Churches: Earth will be destroyed by fire.   
   > Bible: Earth will always exist. (Ec 1:4) (Ps 78:69) (Ps 119:90)   
   >   
   > Churches: Unrighteous will burn forever in hellfire.   
   > Bible: God never thought about a hellfire place. (Jer 7:31)   
   >   
   > Churches: Lake of fire is **literal fire.   
   > Bible: Death and hell are tossed into the Lake of Fire. (Rev 20:14)   
   > **Thus that fire can't be literal, but is symbolic.   
   >   
   > Churches: At death, **soul survives body and is immortal.   
   > Bible: A soul can die. (Eze 18:4) Man IS a soul. (Gen 2:7)   
   > **Soul can also mean "life". (Gen 35:16-18)   
   >   
   > Enjoy.   
   >   
   >   
   > James: zebrabible@proton.me   
      
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