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   Message 95,234 of 96,161   
   None to James   
   Re: Churches' God Vs Bible God. (1/3)   
   27 Nov 25 12:40:29   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian, alt.religion.jehovahs-witn   
   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Nov 27, 2025, James wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Wed, 26 Nov 2025 22:32:28 -0800, Robert<.robert@mu.way>  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Nov 26, 2025, James wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > Churches' God Vs Bible God.   
   > > >   
   > > > They are NOT one and the same. (but it should be) So some comparisons:   
   > >   
   > > This gutless wonder will not quote the scripture, he only points to them as   
   > > if it backs him up, and if you were to read them then you would see his   
   > > errors when read in context.   
   >   
   > I give you the Scriptures to back up my statements. It's up to you to   
   > look them up or not.   
      
   That is a smart aleck comment, also one the speaks to your lack of caring.   
   Since most could care less about what you say when you do not show them   
   exactly what you are saying as you left your comments undefined. But Heh, who   
   cares, right? After all you did your religious duty.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > I personally have responded to all of these deceptive allegations and shown   
   > > them to be spiritually incorrect and or twisted with deceptions. For   
   > > instance, James believes that Jehovah is God, that the Holy Spirit is God,   
   >   
   > JW's do NOT believe the Holy Spirit is God. You need to change your   
   > anti-JW web page. The Holy Spirit is God's force for accomplishing His   
   > will.   
      
   LOL, you have got to be kidding me. All white people look alike eh?   
   I have no web page, especially one on anti-JW’s.   
      
   You were the one who said within the last couple weeks that the Holy Spirit   
   is God. Which I responded to with a comment. God’s Force? Absolutely not.   
   He is a provider of the dynamite power of God to and through men that believe   
   in His Son Jesus, only those that are Born Again.   
   >   
   >   
   > > but blows off Jesus as God. He believes that Jesus was created, yet he has   
   > > no proof of that.   
   >   
   > I gave you proof. Here it is again:   
      
   Here again you are arguing with sound bites. You knee jerk react to every   
   little bite.   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn   
   > of every creature:   
      
   It is plain to see that there is nothing there that says Jesus was created.   
   > And   
   >   
   > -- King James   
   > Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans   
   > write; these things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the   
   > beginning of the creation of God;   
      
   Nothing there either. It just reiterated that it only refers to the one who   
   created all things of this realm. Point of fact, neither verse mentioned   
   Jesus either.   
   >   
   > > He cannot accept scripture as fact, pure truth. He is not honest, and lacks   
   > > integrity or sincerity in things related to the scripture. If the JW Org   
   does   
   > > not reveal the "real truth” to him he calls scripture an allegory,   
   > > symbolism, parables, etc. Yet he will take some of them and claim he knows   
   > > whereof he speaks.   
   >   
   > Your opinion of me is noted. Rather than spending my time downgrading   
   > your character, I prefer to share Bible knowledge. And I encourage   
   > research of the Scriptures I present.   
      
   Character? You are admitting that your character is corrupted? Thus you are   
   corrupted?   
      
   I made it a point for several weeks a few years ago to show where you   
   knowingly lied. There were many posts on that subject since you were and   
   still are conflicting with the Bible, and even your own personal statements   
   as well as the published doctrines of the JW’s. So much so that others   
   complained about it since all reasonable people saw what you were doing, the   
   only one who didn’t see it was you, and that truth remains sadly to this   
   day.   
      
   Point in fact, you say that you are a Jehovahs Witness. i.e.: a witness of   
   God per JW speak Yet you here declare that you are a witness of men. And   
   beings who are not God, expressly Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Hence you follow   
   a man, and his doctrines. You are intent of sharing what your opinions are   
   about him, yet do not know him, and willingly state publicly that you follow   
   just another man, one that you appoint on a scale equal to Jimmy Jones a   
   leader of a sect who also died for his flock, so that they could all hitch a   
   ride on Halley’s comet. Sound ridiculous? Yet that is what you claim, that   
   Jesus is a second tier being, a dead man. And yet you witness, you claim, for   
   Jehovah.   
      
   >   
   > >   
   > > There is much more that can be said about this, yet I do not degrade him as   
   > > a person, real people can be sincerely wrong. Given to believe a lie. Does   
   > > that degrade his being? Nope, only his belief system as he has been led   
   astray.   
   > > The Bible warns us about deception, and to test or try the spirits since   
   > > there are many false prophets running around on this earth, mores in these   
   > > last days of this age.   
   >   
   > I have researched most of the Scriptures I show. So I believe them to   
   > be God's word of truth. (John 4:23,24)   
      
   Nope, you cherry pick them according to the doctrines of the JW Org. You fool   
   no one.   
   >   
   >   
   > >   
   > > But how can any person test the spirits, when they do not have the spirit   
   of   
   > > God Dwelling inside of them to lead them into all truth.   
   >   
   > Then you believe that Scripture about testing the Spirit, to not apply   
   > to everyone?   
      
   Not everyone can do it, I regards to what is right and proper unto the   
   Heavenly Father, as not everyone is in the Family of God. Only those who have   
   been Born Again by the Heavenly Father. We are given all power over the   
   enemy. By Jesus.   
      
   Yes, those that follow the god of this world can test spirits, as they know   
   their own, they also recognize those that are Born Again and against those do   
   they war. Especially against those that are weak in faith believing for they   
   are not walking in the Spirit but in their fleshly desires, thoughts, and   
   reasoning.   
   >   
   >   
   > > According to the JW   
   > > Org only 144K such me, no women, and unmarried men at that can be   
   spiritual,   
   > > and those slots were filled up hundreds of years ago, well past the   
   thousand   
   > > year mark.   
   >   
   > You are being mislead by someone. The 144,00 are as Paul presents it,   
   > SPIRITUAL Jews. Thus they may be men or women.   
      
   Nope, that is a purposeful deceitful statement, you are mixing up spiritual   
   truths, neither of which do you understand, or even know. Revelations speaks   
   of exactly who the 144K are, and they are distinctly Jewish Young Virgin Men   
   and it says distinctly who have not been with a woman. Paul never once   
   mentioned that there are only a 144K Believers and all else are outcasts.   
   Never even alluded to that. By the time he was killed there were already over   
   144 thousand believers, and if you actually believed and saw with wide open   
   eyes the JW Doctrine you would have, according to those words you just used,   
      
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