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   From: Robert@his.way   
      
   On 11/24/25 5:43 PM, Christ Rose wrote:   
      
   >   
   >> Then look at the freedom from sin, freed from the desire to sin or   
   >> placate the body and its desires   
   >   
   >   
   > We are freed from the *obligation* to sin the minute we trust Christ as   
   > Savior (Romans 6). We are not freed from the presence of our sin nature,   
   > however, till glory (Philippians 3:20-21). We wait in hope for the   
   > redemption of our bodies and the riddance of that old nature (Romans   
   > 8:23-25).   
   >   
      
   Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more;   
   death hath no more dominion over him.   
      
   Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he   
   liveth, he liveth unto God.   
      
   Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,   
   but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.   
      
   Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should   
   obey it in the lusts thereof.   
      
   Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness   
   unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from   
   the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.   
      
   Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under   
   the law, but under grace.   
      
   Why does the scriptures teach the above if you are so correct?   
      
   There is an old nature one that that troubles a non-believer. However a   
   Born Again person is given a New Nature, a Divine Nature, one that is   
   empowered by the Holy Spirit. One that supersedes the old one.   
      
   2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that   
   pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath   
   called us to glory and virtue:   
      
   2Pe 1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:   
   that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped   
   the corruption that is in the world through lust.   
      
   2Pe 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue;   
   and to virtue knowledge;   
      
   2Pe 1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to   
   patience godliness;   
      
   2Pe 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness   
   charity.   
      
   2Pe 1:8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye   
   shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord   
   Jesus Christ.   
      
   2Pe 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar   
   off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.   
      
   2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your   
   calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:   
      
   2Pe 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into   
   the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.   
      
   2Pe 1:12 Wherefore I will not be negligent to put you always in   
   remembrance of these things, though ye know them, and be established in   
   the present truth.   
      
   Therefore, if these scriptural truths be true then how does Verse Nine   
   just above become a lie in your eyes?   
      
      
   PS I forgot that this program was on my computer, saw it again and   
   decided to see if you were up to your old tricks, AYUP, you are.   
      
   --   
   Luk 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted   
   worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand   
   before the Son of man.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)