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   > I know it is. But that is what I was taught in Catholicism, as well as   
   > many churches.   
      
      
   Your claim is what is false. You do not accurately represent the   
   "churches" when you claim they believe OT saints went directly to   
   heaven. As already noted.rts and James Donaldson, Christian Literature   
   Publishing Co., 1885.   
      
   Tertullian. A Treatise on the Soul. In Ante-Nicene Fathers, Vol. 3.   
   Edited by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson, Christian Literature   
   Publishing Co., 1885.   
      
   So yes, I am convinced Watchtower James intentionally misrepresents both   
   what the "Churches" believe and what the Bible actually says.   
      
      
   >> b   
   >>   
   >> It seems unlikely to me that you forgot your original claims when you   
   >> stated that. Throughout this article, you have been trying to contrast   
   >> what you claim the Bible says, with what you claim the church actually   
   >> believes.   
   >   
   > And what church do you go to?   
      
      
   I'm not going to facilitate your misrepresentation. Ask me what I   
   believe and I'll tell you.   
      
   --   
   Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God   
   raised Him from the dead?   
      
   That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death   
   penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death   
   satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John   
   2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your   
   sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)