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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   On Dec 1, 2025, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote   
   (Message-ID: <10gl8q1$34j$5@reader2.panix.com>):   
      
   > But Jesus conquered death by death. THe most difficult thing for him to do   
   > was to go to the afterlife and reorder it. From then on burning is unto   
   > oblivion, like chaff, but resurrection is immediate, like he told the robber   
   > on the cross "Today you will be with me". Saints intercede! But also   
   > understand Athanasius said God is beyond time, hence he is in today and   
   > tomorrow, beginning and end, alpha and omega, simultaneously.   
      
   Actually it was resurrection of Jesus, that enabled it because of His   
   Sacrifice and shed blood, so yes, through death he had to go in order to be   
   resurrected, however the battle was not over completely.   
      
   To rid death entirely see,...   
      
   1Co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits   
   of them that slept.   
      
   1Co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of   
   the dead.   
      
   1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.   
      
   1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward   
   they that are Christ's at his coming.   
      
   1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to   
   God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority   
   and power.   
      
   1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.   
      
   1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.   
      
   1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all   
   things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put   
   all things under him.   
      
   1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son   
   also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may   
   be all in all.   
      
   V28 is a most interesting verse, the understanding of which is provided   
   elsewhere in scripture.   
      
   Jesus PAID it all,   
      
   All to Him I owe!   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)