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   eligion.jehovahs-witn   
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   From: .robert@mu.way   
      
   We are given one physical life. One earthly world life. During that lifetime   
   we are given multiple chances to accept Yeshua/God as our Savior and belief   
   upon Him, rest upon Him and the work He has done for our salvation from many   
   things both in this life on earth as well as our deliverance from all of it   
   into His Heavenly Kingdom. When a man is Born Again it is natural for him in   
   his new spirit to commit to the things of God that he is grateful for the   
   forgiveness of God, and has become one with the Family. He then desires to   
   set aside all the lusts of the Fleshly Body. Yes, they will be tempted by the   
   evil one in various fashions include false religious teachings, yet   
   forgiveness is freely available as well as the promises of God. Even the   
   prodigal son can return to the father if they were drawn away. However, those   
   that have known God and tasted of the good things of God and in spite of that   
   willingly and openly walk away rejecting him, have lost their salvation by   
   their own choice.   
      
   However, those who just flat out reject the call of God, and chose to ignore   
   or pretend that God the Word/memra, does not exist and die in that state,   
   without God in their life are damned to eternal death and torment of their   
   own choosing. Much like a poor man, with a rough life who refuses and offer   
   of money to bail him out, and set him free of poverty. Yet the refuse that   
   offer and say I can do it without your help because of pride, or just wanting   
   to do it their own way with no limitations or feelings of debt. Those people   
   stay poor out of their own Choice. Some who seems to get out of the hole   
   financially are still operating with the mindset of being poor which is self   
   limiting. In Christ the Born Again man is a new creature, old things are   
   passed away and everything becomes new, seen in a new light.   
      
   The above is the RL experiences of Humans in their actions with or against   
   God, upon their physical death their future choice is fixed. As noted in the   
   following per the teachings and doctrine of Christ Jesus.   
      
   Per Jesus the Christ, as directed by His Heavenly Father. When the eternal   
   outcome of a persons future determined to be set.   
      
   Luk 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine   
   linen, and fared sumptuously every day:   
      
   Luk 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his   
   gate, full of sores,   
      
   Luk 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich   
   man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.   
      
   Luk 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the   
   angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;   
      
   Luk 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth   
   Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.   
      
   Luk 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send   
   Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue;   
   for I am tormented in this flame.   
      
   Luk 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime   
   receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is   
   comforted, and thou art tormented.   
      
   Luk 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf   
   fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can   
   they pass to us, that would comefrom thence.   
      
   Luk 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest   
   send him to my father's house:   
      
   Luk 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they   
   also come into this place of torment.   
      
   Luk 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them   
   hear them.   
      
   Luk 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from   
   the dead, they will repent.   
      
   Luk 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets,   
   neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.   
      
   Herein you can see that the Rich Man knew and accepted his outcome and the   
   reality of it, he pleaded that his brothers would know the future outcome for   
   them would be the same as his in the hopes that they might listen, reason,   
   understand, and change or repent from the lifestyles they were leading,   
   including the false religious teachings of their time.   
      
   So it is with all people who teach that God is a God of Love, and not a God   
   of Justice as well.   
      
   He also. Does that to sinners in this life, as he will not contend with   
   people forever, therefore....   
      
   Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorifiedhim not as God,   
   neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their   
   foolish heart was darkened.   
      
   Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,   
      
   Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made   
   like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four footed beasts, and creeping   
   things.   
      
   Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of   
   their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:   
      
   Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served   
   the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.   
      
   Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their   
   women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:   
      
   Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman,   
   burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is   
   unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which   
   was meet.   
      
   Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God intheir knowledge, God   
   gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not   
   convenient;   
      
   Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness,   
   covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity;   
   whisperers,   
      
   Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of   
   evil things, disobedient to parents,   
      
   Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection,   
   implacable, unmerciful:   
      
   Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things   
   are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do   
   them.   
      
   Choose Life while the option is available to you and walk therein. Do not be   
   deceived.   
      
   God is not willing that any should perish, but that all would come to eternal   
   life in Christ Jesus. 2Peter 3:9   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)