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   >“Away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8, ESV)   
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   >Sleep refers to the body’s state, not the soul’s awareness.   
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   >5. “Ghosts cannot be dead humans.”   
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   >Jesus affirms the reality of spirits while denying they possess physical   
   >bodies.   
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   >“A spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have” (Luke   
   >24:39, ESV)   
      
   Yes, that is true for a spirit being. But spirits can manufacture a   
   physical body in order to interact with humans. Angels in the OT did   
   that, such as the one that led Lot out of danger.   
      
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   >Jesus does not deny existence. He distinguishes nature.   
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   >Scripture forbids inquiry of the dead.   
      
   According to you, they are still alive, just in a different state.   
   There should be nothing wrong with contacting a living person.   
      
   But now if they were Scripturally dead (not conscience), it would be   
   forbidden to contact them because they couldn't. Anyone claiming to be   
   them, would be the demons.   
      
      
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   >“One who inquires of the dead” (Deuteronomy 18:11, ESV)   
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   >The prohibition presupposes real contact.   
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   >“Samuel said to Saul” (1 Samuel 28:15, ESV)   
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   >Scripture identifies Samuel. It does not say a demon impersonated him.   
      
   It doesn't have to. The Bible already tells you enough to reason that   
   out.   
      
   Samuel is in his 'grave' awaiting the resurrection. What is amazing   
   about the Bible's teachings, is that we will be able to meet almost   
   all people of the OT. (Acts 24:15) And even a few in the NT, such as   
   John the Baptist.   
      
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   >6. “Demons pretend to be dead humans.”   
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   >Scripture never teaches demons impersonate deceased humans. Scripture   
   >does teach deception through false righteousness.   
      
   There is nothing wrong with drawing conclusions from the Scriptures.   
   Mary did that when the angel told her about her upcoming pregnancy.   
      
   -- King James   
   Luke 2:19  But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her   
   heart.   
      
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   >“Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” (2 Corinthians   
   >11:14, ESV)   
      
   Remember the Fatima experience? He is a master trickster.   
      
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   >“So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as   
   >servants of righteousness” (2 Corinthians 11:15, ESV)   
      
   That's right. Those who know much of the Bible are not fooled by their   
   shenanigans.   
      
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   >This includes demons pretending to be “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” acting like   
   >angels of light while they deny the true identity of Christ, corrupt the   
   >saving gospel, and promote darkness, death, and damnation.   
      
   They would be stupid to do that. Like you do, they are going to get   
   more persecution than listening ears. No, what they control is the   
   churches, who perpetuate a torturous god of eternal pain. They are so   
   pleased that so many people are falling for their deception, it really   
   makes their day!   
      
   But they are not happy with JW's, who know the truth about them, and   
   exposes them. If it wasn't for Jehovah's protection, we would be like   
   a smear on a windshield.   
      
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   >7. “UAPs must be demons because they defy physics.”   
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   >Scripture never mentions extraterrestrials, UAPs, or physical forces   
   >such as G-forces.   
      
   Of course not, it is not a science book, but a religious one. But we   
   were given reasoning power, and can use it.   
      
   For example, can fire hurt angels? We can deduce NO, after reading the   
   account of the 3 Hebrews in Daniel. Also when Jesus was resurrected   
   (by himself?) by God, did he have the same body? No. How do we know?   
      
   One way is that when he appeared to Mary Magdalene, she thought he was   
   the gardener. So not even close to the same body.   
      
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   >“The secret things belong to the Lord our God” (Deuteronomy 29:29, ESV)   
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   >Assigning modern phenomena to demons lacks biblical warrant.   
      
   Some of these seriel killers that have mutilated and even ate their   
   victims, have said they heard voices in their head telling them to do   
   that. True, there are diseases such as  schizophrenia that can cause   
   the same thing. But even in Jesus' day, people were possessed by   
   demons, and Jesus would get rid of them. Today we are stuck with them.   
      
      
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   >8. “Demons are not bound by natural limits.”   
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   >Scripture teaches demons are powerful but finite creatures under God’s   
   >authority.   
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   >“Only against him do not stretch out your hand” (Job 1:12, ESV)   
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   >Demons are not omniscient.   
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   >“Now we know who you are—the Holy One of God” (Mark 1:24, ESV)   
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   >They gain knowledge by encounter, not by all-knowing awareness.   
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   >Demons are not omnipresent.   
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   >“Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits” (Matthew 12:45, ESV)   
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   >Any freedom from physical constraints does not imply divine attributes   
   >or unlimited power.   
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   >9. “Demons kill humans at will.”   
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   >Scripture denies autonomous demonic authority over life and death.   
      
   People in the occult have been known to be injured or killed, likely   
   by demons.   
      
   There is an account in the Bible, where a boy kept trying to kill   
   himself (unwillingly). Jesus drove the demon out and saved him. (Mt   
   17:14-18)   
      
   There is a JW reference in Africa where a man in the occult, had his   
   head twisted 360. So they are not something to play around with.   
      
      
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   >“Only spare his life” (Job 2:6, ESV)   
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   >God alone governs life and death.   
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   >10. “Occult practices attract demons.”   
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   >Scripture forbids occult practices without explaining unseen mechanisms.   
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   >“Whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord” (Deuteronomy   
   >18:12, ESV)   
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   >The condemnation rests on rebellion against God, not speculative   
   >explanations.   
      
   Disobeying God can bring about many 'curses'.   
      
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   >11. “Hitler, the Ark, and occult power.”   
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   >Scripture does not address Hitler. (Duhh) Scripture condemns treating holy   
   >objects as instruments of power.   
      
   The Scriptures do not even want God's servants from having in their   
   possessions "holy objects". People tend to worship them, and that   
   brings out anger from God.   
      
   Your god is probably going to pull their fingernails out real slow,   
   before tossing them in the 'Holy Fire'.   
      
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   >“Let us bring the ark… that it may save us” (1 Samuel 4:3, ESV)   
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   >Israel’s superstition brought judgment, not power.   
      
   Hitler and his mercinaries didn't know that. He just read or heard the   
   accounts of great power in them, like the fall of Jericho with the   
   ark.   
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   >12. “Peace and security” as end-times deception.   
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   >“When people say, ‘There is peace and security,’ then sudden destruction   
   >will come” (1 Thessalonians 5:3, ESV)   
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   >Scripture explains why deception succeeds.   
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   >“God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is   
   >false” (2 Thessalonians 2:11, ESV)   
      
   That is a real sign that will be literally fulfilled. They may believe   
   that there is peace and security, whether there really is or not, they   
   will SAY it, then destruction follows.   
      
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   >“Because they refused to love the truth and so be saved… who did not   
   >believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness” (2 Thessalonians   
   >2:10–12, ESV)   
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   >Deception follows rejection of the saving gospel and delight in   
   >unrighteousness.   
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   >13. Governing biblical principle.   
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   >“Not to go beyond what is written” (1 Corinthians 4:6, ESV)   
      
   Yes, the churches need to memorize that Scripture. For example, the   
   4th century Trinity is way beyond what is written. The celebrations of   
   pagan holidays, even Christmas. The Bible doesn't ONCE describe any of   
   Jesus' apostles or the apostle Paul celebrating Jesus' birth. None,   
   ziltch, zero. Take a hint from God!   
      
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   >Claims about unconscious souls, demon impersonation of the dead,   
   >unlimited demonic power, and modern phenomena exceed what Scripture states.   
      
      
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