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|    Christ Rose to All    |
|    Re: Bible beasts: What are they?    |
|    29 Dec 25 14:08:13    |
      XPost: alt.religion.christian       From: usenet@christrose.news              Matthew 17:24–27               “Then the sons are free. However, not to give offense to them, go        to the sea and cast a hook… Take that and give it to them for me        and for yourself.” (17:26–27, ESV)              Conclusion:              Jesus explicitly commands payment of a tax imposed by a pagan government       and grounds it in avoiding offense, not in satanic allegiance. Obedience       here contradicts the claim that participation equals worship of evil.              1 Peter 2:13–15               “Be subject for the Lord’s sake to every human institution,        whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent        by him… For this is the will of God.” (2:13–15, ESV)              Conclusion:              Peter commands submission to human governments as an act done for the       Lord’s sake, not as compromise with Satan. This directly refutes the       claim that submission equals bearing the mark of the beast.              Romans 13:1–7               “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For        there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have        been instituted by God.” (13:1, ESV)               “For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad… for he        is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on        the wrongdoer.” (13:3–4, ESV)               “Because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are        ministers of God.” (13:6, ESV)              Christian responsibility stated by Paul:               • Be subject to governing authorities (13:1)               • Do what is good to avoid fear (13:3)               • Pay taxes and revenue (13:6–7)               • Show respect and honor (13:7)              Conclusion:              Paul identifies governing authorities as God’s servants and instruments       of His wrath against evildoers. He commands obedience, taxation,       respect, and honor. This leaves no room for labeling all governments as       satanic systems to be rejected wholesale.              Acts 5:29               “But Peter and the apostles answered, ‘We must obey God rather        than men.’” (5:29, ESV)              Clarifying statement:              This principle applies only when human authority commands disobedience       to God. It does not revoke the prior commands to submit, pay taxes, and       honor rulers in ordinary civic life.              Distinction between the present age and after the man of sin is revealed:              Before the man of sin:               • Governments function as God’s ordained instruments to restrain evil        (Romans 13:1–4).               • Believers submit, pay taxes, honor rulers, and live peaceably        (Romans 13:6–7; 1 Peter 2:13–17; Matthew 17:27).              After the man of sin is revealed:               • A specific ruler exalts himself against God and demands worship (2        Thessalonians 2:3–4; Revelation 13:12).               • Refusal centers on idolatry and direct rebellion against God, not        ordinary civic submission (Revelation 13:15–17).              Summary:              Scripture distinguishes ordinary human government, which God presently       uses and commands believers to submit to, from the final lawless ruler       who demands worship. Collapsing all governments into the beast erases       this biblical distinction and contradicts Christ, Peter, and Paul.              --       Have you heard the good news Christ died for our sins (†), and God       raised Him from the dead?              That Christ died for our sins shows we're sinners who deserve the death       penalty. That God raised Him from the dead shows Christ's death       satisfied God's righteous demands against our sin (Romans 3:25; 1 John       2:1-2). This means God can now remain just, while forgiving you of your       sins, and saving you from eternal damnation.              On the basis of Christ's death and resurrection for our sins, call on       the name of the Lord to save you: "For 'everyone who calls on the name       of the Lord will be saved'" (Romans 10:13, ESV).              https://christrose.news/salvation              To automatically receive daily Bible teaching updates with colorful       images and website formatting, subscribe to my feed in a client like       Thunderbird:              https://www.christrose.news/feeds/posts/default              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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