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   "Paul Stables"  wrote in message   
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   > "R&O&**8ISALAAM***ALOOKAM"  wrote in   
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   > >   I never wanted to see Martha Bridegam leave this newsgroup or anyone   
   > else.   
   > > I would like to see the old abg-o back and talking, it was a good place   
   to   
   > > learn things. But I can only reiterate that the precious, pompous and   
   > prissy   
   > > characteristics of the doctrinaire leftwing Orwell fans here sunk the   
   > > newsie. Selene and Bayle gave the other side of the coin and, as all   
   > lefties   
   > > do when challenged, they have shouted down and ignored as lunatics when   
   > what   
   > > they were saying was as valid as what the holy lefties were saying; I   
   > don't   
   > > see it as being spite and hatred. I'm sure we've all said completely out   
   > of   
   > > order things on here; again, I've been the worst in my time. I think   
   > people   
   > > should come back here and not hide out in the walled pleasantness of a   
   > > moderated group blog.   
   >   
   > I certainly agree with you about Martha's prissiness and her sense of   
   > self-righteousness.  I think it's been a major factor in what has happened   
   > here - below for your amusement I shall repost a thread from Alan   
   Allport's   
   > blog that shows Martha at her humourless worst.  But I don't think the   
   road   
   > taken by Bayle and Selene has helped and if thats the cure for Martha then   
   I   
   > prefer the disease. As for your own putting the boot in I think you have   
   > always done it selectively and have shown far greater toleration for   
   > diversity than Martha, Selene, or Bayle.   
   >   
   > Paul Stables   
   >   
   > And now for your amusement a thread from Alan Allport's Horizon:   
   >   
   > Headcase   
   > Was I the only one who thought the wave of mea culpas about Sunday's   
   > Doonesbury strip needed more explanation than the original offense?   
   >   
   > It took me a little while to work out what was so allegedly awful about   
   the   
   > strip's last panel. Perhaps it's because I lack Mr. Trudeau's hair shirt   
   (or   
   > that of his syndicators' lawyers), but I'm still puzzled as to why a   
   > completely off-topic allusion to a commonplace metaphor should have   
   aroused   
   > such passion. Assuming that it did, of course: what's notably absent in   
   the   
   > news stories covering this blooper is evidence that anyone was actually   
   > offended. Perhaps it's time for a bipartisan moratorium on vaguely defined   
   > public outrages (and yes, that means you too, MB).   
   >   
   > Posted by Alan Allport at 06:45 AM | Comments (5)   
   >   
   >   
   > Comments: Headcase   
   > I couldn't figure it out till I read the article. Maybe I'm just horribly   
   > cynical, but I think that people get a certain entertainment out of those   
   > teapot-tempest scandals.   
   >   
   > I imagine down at abgo about now they're saying that Trudeau has blood on   
   > his hands, or something similarly hyperbolic. I just don't think people   
   > would waste their time if they weren't enjoying themselves somehow....   
   >   
   > Posted by Alan Hogue at May 24, 2004 09:48 AM   
   > Shhh ... you mean the Scottish Newsgroup.   
   >   
   > Posted by Alan Allport at May 24, 2004 10:05 AM   
   > LOL 'the Scottish Newsgroup'   
   >   
   > But all you pilgrims that set sail from ABGO to found a new society safe   
   > from the manifestations of Bayle, Selene, and Moyehoist should really   
   think   
   > again. This gated community you have created certainly has a more refined   
   > atmosphere but like any Utopia it misses the essence of life - the   
   > diversity, the annoyance, the aggravation and so many other things that   
   > allow us occasionally to experience the pleasure and joy of a great   
   debate.   
   >   
   > Why not all come back? Plan your return like a military campaign. Gather a   
   > library of killer posts and then despatch them one by one; methodically   
   > interacting with each other until the newsgroup is swamped with quality   
   > discussion and the enemy is defeated. We must all have a very strict rule   
   > that under no circumstances should anyone, no matter what the provocation,   
   > respond to a posting by Bayle, Selene, or Moyehoist. Isolate them in their   
   > hatred, let them stew in their own excrement, and drown in their own rage   
   > and let Orwell's people triumph!   
   >   
   > OK I went a bit OTT but how about it?   
   >   
   > Paul Stables   
   >   
   > Posted by Paul Stables at May 27, 2004 04:10 PM   
   > I'll pass, Paul. But feel free to drop by here any time.   
      
   Why's he passing? What's so worrying about abg-o that he wants to hide in a   
   group blog?   
      
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