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   "ROBB******ISTA"  wrote in message   
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   > "Paul Stables"  wrote in message   
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   > > "R&O&**8ISALAAM***ALOOKAM"  wrote in   
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   > > >   
   > > >   I never wanted to see Martha Bridegam leave this newsgroup or anyone   
   > > else.   
   > > > I would like to see the old abg-o back and talking, it was a good   
   place   
   > to   
   > > > learn things. But I can only reiterate that the precious, pompous and   
   > > prissy   
   > > > characteristics of the doctrinaire leftwing Orwell fans here sunk the   
   > > > newsie. Selene and Bayle gave the other side of the coin and, as all   
   > > lefties   
   > > > do when challenged, they have shouted down and ignored as lunatics   
   when   
   > > what   
   > > > they were saying was as valid as what the holy lefties were saying; I   
   > > don't   
   > > > see it as being spite and hatred. I'm sure we've all said completely   
   out   
   > > of   
   > > > order things on here; again, I've been the worst in my time. I think   
   > > people   
   > > > should come back here and not hide out in the walled pleasantness of a   
   > > > moderated group blog.   
   > >   
   > > I certainly agree with you about Martha's prissiness and her sense of   
   > > self-righteousness.  I think it's been a major factor in what has   
   happened   
   > > here - below for your amusement I shall repost a thread from Alan   
   > Allport's   
   > > blog that shows Martha at her humourless worst.  But I don't think the   
   > road   
   > > taken by Bayle and Selene has helped and if thats the cure for Martha   
   then   
   > I   
   > > prefer the disease. As for your own putting the boot in I think you have   
   > > always done it selectively and have shown far greater toleration for   
   > > diversity than Martha, Selene, or Bayle.   
   > >   
   > > Paul Stables   
   > >   
   > > And now for your amusement a thread from Alan Allport's Horizon:   
   > >   
   > > Headcase   
   > > Was I the only one who thought the wave of mea culpas about Sunday's   
   > > Doonesbury strip needed more explanation than the original offense?   
   > >   
   > > It took me a little while to work out what was so allegedly awful about   
   > the   
   > > strip's last panel. Perhaps it's because I lack Mr. Trudeau's hair shirt   
   > (or   
   > > that of his syndicators' lawyers), but I'm still puzzled as to why a   
   > > completely off-topic allusion to a commonplace metaphor should have   
   > aroused   
   > > such passion. Assuming that it did, of course: what's notably absent in   
   > the   
   > > news stories covering this blooper is evidence that anyone was actually   
   > > offended. Perhaps it's time for a bipartisan moratorium on vaguely   
   defined   
   > > public outrages (and yes, that means you too, MB).   
   > >   
   > > Posted by Alan Allport at 06:45 AM | Comments (5)   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Comments: Headcase   
   > > I couldn't figure it out till I read the article. Maybe I'm just   
   horribly   
   > > cynical, but I think that people get a certain entertainment out of   
   those   
   > > teapot-tempest scandals.   
   > >   
   > > I imagine down at abgo about now they're saying that Trudeau has blood   
   on   
   > > his hands, or something similarly hyperbolic. I just don't think people   
   > > would waste their time if they weren't enjoying themselves somehow....   
   > >   
   > > Posted by Alan Hogue at May 24, 2004 09:48 AM   
   > > Shhh ... you mean the Scottish Newsgroup.   
   > >   
   > > Posted by Alan Allport at May 24, 2004 10:05 AM   
   > > LOL 'the Scottish Newsgroup'   
   > >   
   > > But all you pilgrims that set sail from ABGO to found a new society safe   
   > > from the manifestations of Bayle, Selene, and Moyehoist should really   
   > think   
   > > again. This gated community you have created certainly has a more   
   refined   
   > > atmosphere but like any Utopia it misses the essence of life - the   
   > > diversity, the annoyance, the aggravation and so many other things that   
   > > allow us occasionally to experience the pleasure and joy of a great   
   > debate.   
   > >   
   > > Why not all come back? Plan your return like a military campaign. Gather   
   a   
   > > library of killer posts and then despatch them one by one; methodically   
   > > interacting with each other until the newsgroup is swamped with quality   
   > > discussion and the enemy is defeated. We must all have a very strict   
   rule   
   > > that under no circumstances should anyone, no matter what the   
   provocation,   
   > > respond to a posting by Bayle, Selene, or Moyehoist. Isolate them in   
   their   
   > > hatred, let them stew in their own excrement, and drown in their own   
   rage   
   > > and let Orwell's people triumph!   
   > >   
   > > OK I went a bit OTT but how about it?   
   > >   
   > > Paul Stables   
   > >   
   > > Posted by Paul Stables at May 27, 2004 04:10 PM   
   > > I'll pass, Paul. But feel free to drop by here any time.   
   >   
   > Why's he passing? What's so worrying about abg-o that he wants to hide in   
   a   
   > group blog?   
   >   
   >   
      
   I don't know, each to his own.   
      
   Paul Stables   
      
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