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   ROBBIE **************** to All   
   The Return: ATTN Martha Bridegam   
   06 Jun 04 12:56:48   
   
   From: proustsingsmud@hotmail.com   
      
   Well done on returning to abg-o: after all it is only through dialectic we   
   reach understanding. Having said precisely that, maybe you'll think about   
   dialectic itself: when I replied to your email about the BBC giving house   
   room to fascists I knew you would not reply because I used the word   
   'Jewish'; used it purely as a description and in no way derogatory (i'm   
   pretty pro Jewish anyway, it being in my blood)   
    . This, as well as other areas of debate that you prefer to keep strictly   
   emotional, seems to me to be an abdication of reason from one so   
   prodigiously educated; in fact it seems neurotic.   
    The artical that you sent me was obviously written by a Jewish man.   
    I was thinking how people use one area of identity or behaviour in   
   themselves to extrapolate a world view: to Nick Cohen his religion and the   
   events in the last European war have made him elect to believe, in the face   
   of a mountain of opposing evidence that can be seen anywhere in the BBC from   
   its flagship news programmes to the small print on their job adverts in The   
   Guardian (and the ones that appear exclusively in ethnic minority   
   newspapers), that the bbc isn't doing enough to combat 'fascism' and   
   'racism'. It is the same, for example, in the British acting profession   
   where an enthusiasm for buggery (and I suppose, to a lesser extent, Brecht)   
   has been extrapolated into a widespread support for socialism and   
   practically any dissenting idea at all.   
     Orwell noted that mentioning the word 'jewish' in any context at all got   
   him into trouble and I can't help but feel you may have a lot to learn from   
   that. What is it in our John Rennie for example, that will make him take the   
   side of a psychopathic Hitler-like character who exhausts supply of synonyms   
   for the word evil, against America and England, the only powers that can   
   police fascism in the world?   
     What is it about certain Jews that they can, because of Israel,   
   extrapolate a hard Right view of everything, endorse quasi fascist behaviour   
   ( the ironies don't need mentioning although maybe they do, every once in a   
   while) and complain that Mordechai Vanunu was let off lightly?   
     What is it about you that, in all likelihood on this 60th anniversary of   
   the invasion of France, your thoughts will be of the interned Japanese   
   civilians in California rather than the thousands of Americans who died to   
   restore freedom to the world (I extrapolate this from your various   
   assertions, not least your famous idea that Concientious Objectors were   
   braver that soldiers on active service and that remembering the slaughter of   
   the first world war was an odd and vainglorious thing to do)?   
     It's what I call the wrong-end-of-the-telescope view that, as the years go   
   by, seems to grip the western mind.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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