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   alt.books.george-orwell      Discussing 1984, sadly coming true...      4,149 messages   

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   none to Moyehoist   
   Re: post-orwellian nightmares   
   25 Nov 04 17:54:01   
   
   From: me@privacy.org   
      
   moyehoist@aol.com (Moyehoist) wrote in   
   news:20041124074811.05947.00000731@mb-m19.aol.com:   
      
   > You still have not answered my question .   
   >   
   > If Orwell was only anti stalinist, why did he have Orsen Welles on his   
   > list.   
   >   
   > At the worst, Welles was a democrat socialist perhaps with some   
   > Trotskyist inclinations.   
   >   
   > Why did GO condemn this fellow if he hated only Stalinists.   
   >   
   > My interpretation is that GO knew he had to eat.  He was an   
   > exceptional thinker and writier and he was forced to give lip service   
   > to the leftist controlled industry he worked in and thats why his best   
   > works and messages are in such cloaked terms.  And these works are   
   > anti leftist as the left existed for 70 years.   
   >   
   > bmp   
      
   I thought I'd answered this but I'll try again.  Orwell considered   
   sympathizers to Stalinism as enablers or fellow-travelers who'd damage   
   socialism's future. He wrote about this [I can't remember to whom the   
   letter was written]. Why was Welles particularly on the list? I have no   
   idea, but it probably stems from the fact that he thought those soft on   
   Stalin were dangerous because Stalinism was dangerous.   
      
   Your interpretation that he "knew he had to eat" and therefore 'cloaked   
   terms' goes against everything Orwell stood for, wrote or did. He left a   
   decent paying BBC job for the editor's job at a left-wing paper. He   
   despised the right but was also constantly [and publicly] at fueding with   
   fellow left-wing writers and editors. Read any decent biography of him and   
   you'll see he wasn't the type to give 'lip service' to anything nor was he   
   one to "cloak" terms [the meanings of Animal Farm and 1984 aren't exactly   
   "cloaked"!].   
      
   Holding the view you do I wonder if you've ever read his non-Animal   
   Farm/1984 output. Here are some online links of his essays, articles and   
   books:   
      
      
      
   The essays are among the best ever written in the English language.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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