From: JONNY@ROBBIE.COM   
      
   "Bayle"  wrote in message   
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   > BYE BYE JOHNNY wrote:   
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   > > I was interested by the Dylan doc, but I don't believe anything he says.   
   > >   
   > > ROBBIE   
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   > In a way I agree with you, but I found the recent interviews very   
   > believable. Its dangerous IMO to underestimate the naivite of someone   
   > in the late 50s early 60s. No doubt he was ambitious. But not sure how   
   > controling he could have been in the early days. I think he was good   
   > and lucky, and then turned into something greater than that.   
   >   
   > There is no doubt in my mind that he was basically non-politcal. By   
   > that I mean that he shared a generally liberal view of the world (that   
   > we all share/ed) but wasn't that interested in or knowledgable about   
   > politics.   
      
   That's kind of what I mean when I say he's a complete charlatan, because he   
   *did* connive at a sort of gnostic sagacity: the songs prove that. I believe   
   he got so far into that act that he became disgusted by it and faked the   
   bike crash. Apart from John Wes, he was never like that again. I too see him   
   as a bit of an everyman figure, as opposed to this omniescent artist that a   
   million loons and Greil Marcus have concocted. He's a little Left, he's a   
   little Right, he likes a drink, he gets pissed off, he has been known to   
   laugh, even (according to chronicles) does a bit of DIY. Words come to him,   
   he writes them down. He's had long periods where he was just faking it,   
   keeping it up for others. Has he said anything about Iraq?   
      
      
    There was an interesting quote from Dave Van Ronk today,   
   > along the lines of maybe Dylan knew more about politics than any of   
   > them did in those days. It seems to me that the reaction Dylan got from   
   > the left is similar to what Hitchens is getting now, outraged   
   > ingnorance and foolishness.   
   >   
   > Judas?  Traitor? I think the work of both men will stand the test of   
   > time. And their opponents words and actions will linger showing them to   
   > be the fools that they are.   
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   I agree. The Left's biggest  problem is that they (from Berkeley through to   
   the idiots who run Inner London) cannot recognise a fascist if he has brown   
   skin. It's like Nelson putting the telescope up to the blind eye. In this   
   case it's the blind eye and the telescope is the wrong way round... They   
   don't like Hitch telling them that.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
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