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   HORATIO to Joe Fineman   
   Re: While we're being rude...   
   24 Oct 05 15:45:52   
   
   From: HOR@ELS.COM   
      
   "Joe Fineman"  wrote in message   
   news:u7jc5gkbb.fsf@verizon.net...   
   > The following lines for "Oranges and Lemons", which somehow failed to   
   > make it into _Nineteen Eighty-Four_, are in O.'s last literary   
   > notebook (CW 20:210):   
   >   
   >   Your mother was a spinster, say the bells of the Westminster,   
   >   Don't keep talking balls, say the bells of St Paul's.   
   >   
   > I suppose he might have heard them somewhere, but I like to think he   
   > made them up.   
   >   
   > Next time thou hearest church bells, remember, they toll for thee.   
      
      
   If this elegant evasion is aimed at me I say this in reply:   
      
   1) If it's sarcasm because you think I'm scurrying towards Mother Church,   
   you are wrong in a big way (I trust you - along with others here - are   
   working out your issues with having been potty trained in the shadow of the   
   the steeple and projecting them on everyone else. Get rid of the old moral   
   absolutes and get yerself a loada new ones, bakery fresh from Berkeley! SEND   
   BEFORE MIDNIGHT TOMORROW FOLKS NO SALESMAN WILL VISIT YOUR HOME, NEVER NEEDS   
   IRONING AND FOLDS AWAY UNDER YOUR TV SET!! YOUR NEW AND IMPROVED MORALITY!   
   WHY PUT UP WITH BOURGEOISE MORAL ABSOLUTES WHEN YOU CAN DO WHAT THE FUCK YOU   
   LIKE AND SAY YOU'RE POOR OR GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT-GREAT GRANPAPPY   
   HAD HIS FOOT STOOD ON BY BUFFALO BILL (i suggest a dry interjection just   
   about... tiddle tiddle tum tum tum ((that's Bocherrini's minuet by the way))   
   quoting a bit of 'Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee' ((I read and cried at that:   
   'OH REALLY THEN GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES ((ooh oooh, religious   
   imagery -imagery said in a californian IT worker accent)) AND START THANKING   
   PETER MANDELSON FOR SOCIALISM SOCIAL DEMOCRACY (C) (P) SEND BEFORE MIDNIGHT   
   TOMORROW! KILL YOUR FAMILY AND USE NEW HANDY SOCIAL DEMOCRACY (C) (P) TO SAY   
   WELL IF YOU'D JUST ONLY GIMME SOME MORE MONEY I CAN SMOKE CRACK IN PEACE AND   
   WILL NEVER STICK A KNIFE DOWN MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR'S THROAT NEVER NO MORE   
   IN FACT IF A SCHEME COULD BE SET UP WHEREBY i DON'T EVEN HAVE TO BUY THE   
   CRACK I JUST GET CRACK VOUCHERS OR BETTER STILL SENT IN WITH MY PIZZA AND   
   FIFTY CENT DVDS, WELL...IF YOU LIKE THE SOUND OF THIS FOLKS TAKE THIS NUMBER   
   DOWN RIGHT NOW AND YOU WILL BE PUT STRAIGHT THROUGH TO OUR BUYING HOTLINE   
   WHERE WE WILL MAKE A NOTE OF YOUR RACIAL, GENDER AND SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND   
   AWARD YOU THE RIGHT TO BUY ON THAT BASIS (I suggest a dry interjection at   
   just about...dubba dubba dub dub; der dub dubba dub dub dub ((that's the   
   intro to Muskrat Ramble by the way WHOOPEE WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE AND IT;S   
   FIVE, SIX SEVEN. WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR? DON'T ASK ME I DON'T GIVE A DAMN,   
   NEXT STOP IS VIETNAM)) 'yer damned lucky to own a record player' says Martha   
   Bridegam laconically in a Humphrey Bogart accent. WHY PUT UP WITH THE OLD   
   MORAL ORDER (I think banks are organised crime too, 'then why in the name of   
   tarnation are you getting all bejessused about...') WHEN YOU CAN HAVE NEW   
   MORAL ORDER 'thanks I'll have 30 oz (approx uncooked weight) slab of   
   Foucualt and a nice side dish of SHALL WE GATHER AT THE RIVER THE BEAUTIFUL   
   'Well quite and since you cannot prove anything objectively (except racism   
   and gender disparities in the private sector) it makes sense that snobbery   
   is a worse crime than burglary and under our new plans to recognise burglars   
   as the small, DISCRIMINATED AGAINST businessmen that they really are we   
   expect a 78 per cent drop in crime and so much more money could be spent on   
   wheelchair access for state heroin addicts and a new squadron of Imams at   
   Berkely. AND TALKING OF ISLAM, SICK OF THAT OLD BIGOTRY ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY   
   AND RACE FOLKS? THEN SIGN UP TODAY FOR NEW IMPROVED SOCIAL DEMOCRACY (C) (P)   
   AND TURN YOUR PERCEIVED SLIGHTS INTO A PROFITABLE SECOND INCOME! DID THAT   
   WHITE MAN LOOK AT YOU ASKANCE TODAY ON THE BUS? THEN SEE THE MUTHAFUCKING   
   WHITE TRASH PEICERSHIT IN COURT AND WHO PAYS FOLKS? WELL THAT'S ANOTHER   
   GREAT FEATURE OF SOCIAL DEMOCRACY - WHICH INCIDENTALLY COSTS 9000 BILLION   
   TRILLION TRILLION DOLLARS PAYABLE IN INCONVENIENT MONTHLY INSTALMENTS FOR   
   THE REST OF YOUR LIFE (now, a dry interjection just about...DER DER DER DER   
   DURR DER DER DER DADDLE DID DEEDEY DUM! ((that's Liberty Bell by Sousa -   
   'that fascist embroiderer,' says a Marilyn Manson fan))...here about Iraq,   
   Rove, Rummy and Bush and money will please Michael Moore fans and yes, what   
   a shocking bunch of imcompetent cunts are running our countries)!!!!!! SEND   
   BEFORE MIDNIGHT TOMORROW! NEVER NEEDS WINDING! FED UP WITH PESKY POLICMEN   
   ARRESTING YOU FOR SELLING NARCOTICS AND HITTING PEOPLE? THEN GET NEW AND   
   IMPROVED SOCIAL DEMOCRACY (C) (P) TIRED OF THE DRUDGERY OF FINDING MONEY TO   
   BE CLASS A DRUGS WITH, FOLKS? THEN TELL YOUR MOM AND POP ABOUT NEW SOCIAL   
   DEMOCRACY! 'hey,' says someone, 'haven't you been a benficiary of the   
   welfare system? And can't you see that if you criticise socialism then you   
   must be saying that there be no welfare, kind of like the 'if you hate bush   
   you love Bin laden' argument that we grown up lefties cannot abide' MAYBE   
   YOU'RE WATCHING THIS FROM PRISON? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THE VOTE, BOYS? IF YOU   
   WOULD AND WOULD LIKE THE PRIVILEGE OF STANDING FOR OFFICE ('no worse than   
   the crook we've got now,' says Joe laconically) THEN SIMPLY RING THIS NUMBER   
   NOW AND SOCIAL DEMOCRACY WILL BE DESPATCHED WITH 28 DAYS!   
      
   2) People on this newsgroup have always been good as self-righteously   
   telling others that they are speaking bollocks but always seem to find it   
   too infra dig to refute those arguments.   
      
   3)If you can't be rude on the net, then you risk a newsgroup that runs on   
   elegant evasions.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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