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|    MORDECHAI VANUNU to All    |
|    I Hate the English...    |
|    30 Oct 05 20:05:31    |
      From: MORD@VNGNG.IZ.COR              ...says AA Gill.                      The Sunday Times published an extract today from AA Gill's new book on The       English. He loudly announced that he hates the English. Like John Carey,       whose book on the arts I keep meaning to read, his publishing contract and       book sales depend on controversial statements.        He rattles off what you expect from a privileged member of society of his       age and background: the English are ghastly racists, atavistic and       repressing murderous rage with an obsession with rules, regulations and       queuing.        Of course, under the occasionally witty barbs, it's all the same de haut       en bas sniping that Gill probably despised in Daddy's generation.        Orwell, who also transmogrified his potty training into geopolitical       loathing, was so much better about the English. Gill - at least in the       extract in the Times - doesn't seem to have noticed any other side of the       English except the one that he wishes to exaggerate. You won't find here       anything about the English that spends so much on flowers and seeks to       protect birds and animals, that abolished slavery and invented cricket. This       is Martin Amis-ville: rich kid hangs out with the working class, 'gets' them       and then takes the piss out of them.        He rather foolishly uses the crowd at a football match as a sort of       snapshot of the English at play. This of course is woefully inadequate. He       also asserts that young men laughing cruelly at each other pubs is unique to       England. He is a world class traveler where I have never been anywhere much,       but I find it hard to believe.        According to the set of dislikes laid down in the extract, I am everything       Gill hates: I use humour as an offensive and defensive weapon, laugh loudly       and look at mainland Europe derisively. I also get angry about a lot of       things. By the way, he has a bloody cheek saying the British are obsessed       with rules and regs - the British simply cannot compete with the Europeans       for official paperwork and documents.        In the end, you only have to think of how the world would be if the       English were more like Somalians or Italians to stick Gill's thesis in the       bin. He brushes off the tyranny and insanity of political correctness by       saying he makes jokes about the Welsh but defends his hypocrisy in leaving       Jews and other minorities out his piss taking by saying they have had enough       thrown at them. Maybe so. Who decides when they can become funny again?              ROBBIE              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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