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   MONSIGNOR SILEX to Martha Bridegam   
   Re: Sherlock and type casting   
   09 Nov 05 09:33:11   
   
   From: GGGHHGGHSDGHDSAGHDSAGH@GOOGOOGAJOOB.COM   
      
   "Martha Bridegam"  wrote in message   
   news:87ybf.13587$tV6.9634@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...   
   > Joe Fineman wrote:   
   > ....   
   > >   
   > >>So, setting the shocking rhetoric aside for the moment, maybe he was   
   > >>saying that differences of accents and manners shouldn't be mistaken   
   > >>for class distinctions?   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > That's certainly not what I said he said, and, I think, not what he   
   > > meant to say.  He thought that differences in accents & manners were   
   > > indeed class distinctions & were, for the time being, unavoidable   
   > > facts of life, but we shouldn't let them get in the way of a necessary   
   > > political alliance, which, if victorious, would enable us, in the long   
   > > run, to get rid of them.   
   >   
   >   
   > OK, that's better put, you're right.   
   >   
   > Getting back to Sherlock, I ran across this in Foucault today:   
   >   
   > "The criminal fait divers... recounts from day to day a sort   
   > of internal battle against the faceless enemy; in this war,   
   > it constitutes the daily bulletin of alarm or victory. The   
   > crime novel, which began to develop in the broadsheet and in   
   > mass-circulation literature, assumed an apparently opposite   
   > role. Above all, its function was to show that the   
   > delinquent belonged to an entirely different world,   
   > unrelated to familiar, every day life. The strangeness was   
   > first that of the lower depths of society (Les Mysteres de   
   > Paris, Rocambole), then that of madness (especially in the   
   > latter half of the century), and lastly that of crime in   
   > high society (Arsene Lupin). The combination of the fait   
   > divers and the detective novel has produced for the last   
   > hundred years or more an enormous mass of 'crime stories' in   
   > which delinquency appears both as very close and quite   
   > alien, a perpetual threat to everyday life, but extremely   
   > distant in its origin and motives, both everyday and exotic   
   > in the milieu in which it takes place..."   
   >   
   >   
      
   He should have a written a few crime thrillers. Can you imagine how fucking   
   gripping they would have been. Q: do you think Foucualt believed that AIDS   
   existed objectively?   
      
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