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   "STRUTTIN' WITH SOME BARBECUE"  wrote in   
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   > "Martha Bridegam"  wrote in message   
   > news:gEQnf.37256$tV6.32554@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...   
   > > WITH A HEY AND A HO AND HEY NONNY NO wrote:   
   > > > "selene1022"  wrote in message   
   > > > news:1134441666.206354.319530@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
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   > > >>Yeah ROB, I'd want them to kill me. Though if they had a good   
   > > >>library...   
   > > >>   
   > > >>But then again, I can't imagine putting a shot gun to the head of a   
   > > >>lovely young woman and pulling the trigger just for the hell of it   
   > > >>either.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>Some people LIKE prison. Sick but true. And I blame the way prisons   
   are   
   > > >>run for that. The criminal justice system in the US is royaly screwed   
   > > >>up.  Part of the problem is putting violent offenders, like tookie, in   
   > > >>the same place with people who end up there for non-violent crimes. I   
   > > >>heard a very sad story about a young man who was sent to one of our   
   > > >>state facilities on a breaking and entering charge. He was repeatedly   
   > > >>raped, and ended up with AIDS as a result--so his petty crimed ended   
   up   
   > > >>being punished by death.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>There's no excuse for that. IMHO, the state is responsible for his   
   > > >>murder. State governments should protect people in their custody, and   
   > > >>they could if they wanted to.   
   > > >>   
   > > >>The first step would be controlling the Tookies in the prison   
   > > >>population.  From what I've read, he wasn't exactly penning kid lit   
   for   
   > > >>the first decade or so that he was in San Quentin.   
   > > >>   
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   > > > I totally agree. I had this conversation with Martha recently either   
   > here or   
   > > > on  Horizon. I said that unless you take back the   
   > > > control of the inside of the prison from the Tookies of the world,   
   > people   
   > > > like your break and enter man are going to suffer. In other words a   
   > convict   
   > > > should be penitent to the state and not the biggest psychos on the   
   > block.   
   > > > This argument proved too subtle for the Left. They're cosier with the   
   > bigger   
   > > > platitudes. Meanwhile, people get raped and die.   
   > > >   
   > > > ROBBIE   
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   > > Don't recall having that precise conversation with you.   
   > >   
   > > /M   
   >   
   > It was on here on on horizontal - I said the above and you got annoyed   
   > because an egg - Tookie and his ilk - would be broken in the process and   
   > because you thought I was talking like an ungroovy person. When I've   
   > finished revising for my central govt exam I'll track it down.   
   >   
      
   Of course the Alan 'Stalin' Allport may have airbrushed it from history as   
   he is fond of doing.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
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