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   alt.books.george-orwell      Discussing 1984, sadly coming true...      4,149 messages   

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   MRS BESTE-CHETWYNDE to All   
   Re: '...small, ivy-covered North Koreas.   
   09 Jan 06 10:56:07   
   
   From: SESGBESTE@CHETTES.COM   
      
   "selene1022"  wrote in message   
   news:1136737996.004306.25100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   > "The theory is that the way to   
   > bring down Western culture and the capitalist order is not to lay down   
   > an alternative. They explicitly refuse to do that. They say it can't be   
   >   
   > done, that we can't imagine what a free society would look like (their   
   > definition of a free society). As long as we're living under repression   
   >   
   > - the repression of a capitalistic economic order which creates (in   
   > their theory) the Freudian condition, the conditions that Freud   
   > describes in individuals of repression - we can't even imagine it"   
   >   
   > If this isn't religion---heading for the promised land, even though we   
   > ain't never seen it--I don't know what is. They are no better than   
   > bible thumpers.   
   >   
   > Is there a critique to be made of capitalism and liberal democracies?   
   > Sure, but this certainly is not it.   
   >   
   > Marxism as a workable political ideology is dead--except in the sordid   
   > minds of academics.   But they just can't give it up, like the true   
   > faithful, no matter how much proof is dropped in their laps.   
   >   
   > PS Hope this goes through.  My posts of the last two days have not   
   > appeared.   
   >   
      
   Yep. Was talking to someone at uni in Manchester the other day: his tutor   
   has a bust of Lenin on his desk...   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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