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   THE KINKS ARE THE VILLAGE GREEN PRE to All   
   Re: The Golden Crescent   
   24 Jan 06 10:31:37   
   
   From: GDHDTHSHS@SDSRSF.COM   
      
   "selene1022"  wrote in message   
   news:1138078336.856971.139440@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   >   
   > THE KINKS ARE THE VILLAGE GREEN PRESERVATION SOCIETY wrote:   
   > > Liddle, ex-editor of BBC's Today programme, on the heart of the Wanky   
   Left -   
   > > he likes that Retreat from Reason booklet...   
   > > He puts PC and wanky leftism down to self-interest: too simple, but he   
   makes   
   > > some nice points:   
   > >   
   > > Spectator 21st Jan   
   > > The politics of Pleasantville   
   > > Rod Liddle   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > .> It's not neo-Marxism; it is pure, untrammelled self-interest. Take a   
   walk   
   > > around London's golden crescent. Soak up the atmosphere. And then tell   
   me it   
   > > isn't so.   
   >   
   > Thanks Rob.  Good piece.  You could change the names and places and it   
   > could have been written about several American cities. (NYC, San   
   > Francisco, Seattle come quickly to mind.)   
   >   
   > I agree with the author.  It is not neo-marxism, though it is certainly   
   > the root.  Most of the people who engage in left- elite-think don't   
   > really understand marxism.  I think at this point  it's more a form of   
   > boredom,"feel good" escape-ism and a way of fitting in-- much more   
   > social than political or ideological.  The "elite" are too cynical and   
   > hypocritical to take any of that too seriously. And in turn, because   
   > their positions are morally and intellectually superficial and dull,   
   > very few people, outside their golden circles, are taking them   
   > seriously.   
      
   I agree up to a point. Then behind that - in academia, in the newsrooms, in   
   the funding bodies and what have you - you have the chapter and verse   
   ideologues.   
      
    I recently got into an argument with a girl who writes an inconsequential   
   column about student life for a women's magazine in Brighton. I happened to   
   pick it up one day and read her column - you can find out a lot about   
   society by reading inconsquential little columns. Anyway, she'd decided to   
   go out on a limb and say that she wasn't going shopping in London again   
   until the nasty men in suits that run the government damn well talk to the   
   terrorists (this was six weeks after the July mass murder by Islamic   
   terrorists), find out what they want and give it them. I emailed and said   
   what you may imagine I said: you obviously have no idea what these people   
   stand for etc. I got back a long slab of French postmodern philosophy about   
   how we cannot ever know what those terrorists thought they were doing and we   
   cannot ever know anything. In other words, we have no right to assert   
   objective truth 'cos their ain't any. She was just about graduate with her   
   degree to a nice career in journalism.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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