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   ROBBIE to All   
   Re: James Hilton   
   08 Feb 06 16:34:15   
   
   From: word_chemist@hotmail.com   
      
   "Bayle"  wrote in message   
   news:1139414900.715757.185570@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   >   
   > ROBBIE wrote:   
   > > "selene1022"  wrote in message   
   > > news:1139405367.064805.116880@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...   
   > > >   
   > > > ROBBIE wrote:   
   >   
   > > > What we have here is proof positive that mainstream Islam is the   
   > > > equivalent of the racist Christian Identity movement.   
   > >   
   > > I told her; I thought she'd be interested in the fact that Islam is the   
   > > biggest Far Right organisation in the world; she isn't. Wonder what   
   > > Berkeley's saying about all this.   
   >   
   >   
   > Both true and obvious and I wonder too.   
      
   I suppose many of them are just playing for time and working out an   
   acceptable homily. Martha's gone for 'it's trivial nonsense - don't you know   
   about gender disparities in workplace salaries and the size of the national   
   debt'? - standard ostrich stuff. Others in the coming week will haul out a   
   rag-bag of post-colonialism and so on. The Guardian in England is already   
   finding its feet in that direction.   
      
      
   >   
   > Why can't they see it?   
      
   University, Gramsci, Po-mo, Foucault, hating daddy, cultural cringe, vague   
   conflation of international socialism with dar al-islam, Michael Moore, the   
   Susan Sarandonocracy that run the dominant media. Above all political   
   correctness - Muslims are largely brown people: this presents an ALMIGHTY   
   problem to people who have simplified the problem of cultural clashes in   
   order to accept the creed of multiculturalism. And that's the thing, it was   
   obvious to anyone who thought seriously about it that multiculturalism was   
   the kind of left-wing idea only digestible if you can believe three   
   impossible things before breakfast. This cartoon row has blown the whole   
   thing apart and to take it seriously means seeing that MC is a danger to a   
   society that wishes to keep the cultural and social capital that got it to   
   where it was when it became attractive to people from despotic countries.   
      
    So they can't look directly at it. It hurts too much.   
      
      
    It's a watershed, though those who left the   
   > rough and tumble of speech with out violence on ABGO can't see it. You   
   > would think that those crusaders who supposedly know the misery of the   
   > world would recognize real violence when they see it. These guys are   
   > not the police roughing up lawyers marching for legal aid. The only   
   > kind of violence some of them really know. This is blood lust coming at   
   > us. Because our values and tolerance and their powerlessness and misery   
   > and the pathetic nature of their own societies infuriate them.   
      
   You also have to realise that globalisation plays a hand in this: we export   
   our 'deliquency' right into their world now.   
      
      
    So lets   
   > kill a cartoonist or behead a journalist or kill a priest or peacenik   
   > not to mention any Jew they can lay their hands on.   
   >   
   > I suspect that this will tear away many of their allies though.   
   >   
      
   Don't you believe it, the BBC will be thinking of new hymn sheets to excuse   
   it. One step closer to de facto sharia.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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