From: word_chemist@hotmail.com   
      
   "Bayle"  wrote in message   
   news:1139433975.995701.210290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...   
   >   
   > ROBBIE wrote:   
   >   
   > > This cartoon row has blown the whole   
   > > thing apart and to take it seriously means seeing that MC is a danger to   
   a   
   > > society that wishes to keep the cultural and social capital that got it   
   to   
   > > where it was when it became attractive to people from despotic   
   countries.   
   >   
   > Exactly right.   
   >   
   > How can a society protect itself from those who wish to destroy it?   
   > Partly in the sense of changing it irrevocably (which happens all the   
   > time and does often provoke ill adivsed and often illiberal responses)   
   > but most importantly in the sense of undermining its most basic and   
   > hard won values.   
   >   
   > Is it possible that certain values and ideas are truly outside the   
   > pale? In a way that even our expatriots would agree. Not as a cheap   
   > political trick but as a reality.   
   >   
   > I think you are too pessimistic.   
      
   In the long scheme things could go well. I tend to look at things from the   
   point of view of the people on street level who have to take the impact of   
   the mandarins' delusions and and capitulations and that side of things in   
   London isn't looking good.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
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