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   ROBBIE to All   
   Re: Best Novels of the last 25 Years?   
   26 Oct 06 19:31:07   
   
   From: hjkhjkhd@hhhh.com   
      
   "P.S.Burton"  wrote in message   
   news:1161886383.554847.254580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...   
   >   
   > ROBBIE wrote:   
   >> "P.S.Burton"  wrote in message   
   >> news:1161850536.291241.299190@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   >> >   
   >> > ROBBIE wrote:   
   >> >> "P.S.Burton"  wrote in message   
   >> >> news:1161250379.910828.152030@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   >> >> > Experience is a *staggeringly* good book. Probably my favourite   
   >> >> > autobiography of all time. It's an absolute corker   
   >> >>   
   >> >> This statement reminds me of a anecdote in a biography I read of the   
   >> >> great   
   >> >> Dean Martin (who let's face it gave far more pleasure to far more   
   >> >> people   
   >> >> than little Mart ever has or will - mind you, you could say that about   
   >> >> Hitler probably): a soldier approached Dino one evening as the great   
   >> >> man   
   >> >> ate   
   >> >> in a restaurant in New York in the 50s. He began to gush: '...Mr   
   >> >> Martin,   
   >> >> your music is so great, it means so much to me, Mr Martin, it's so   
   >> >> wonderful. I have so much respect for you, Mr Martin, you know this is   
   >> >> how   
   >> >> much I respect I have for you, Mr Martin,' at which point he bend down   
   >> >> and   
   >> >> gave Dino a little kiss on the cheek. Dino murmured: 'keep a little   
   >> >> for   
   >> >> yourself, pally.'   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >> . The bit where he's   
   >> >> > talking about a crocodile he saw at the zoo with his sons that had   
   >> >> > been   
   >> >> > injured and he says something like "it's entire upper mandible   
   >> >> > (approximately a third of its head) was missing, no doubt wrenched   
   >> >> > off   
   >> >> > in some unspeakable croc rumble"   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > "unspeakable croc rumble" = genius.   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Don't. Be. Silly.   
   >> >   
   >> > It's very funny, and very moving and very, very well written.   
   >>   
   >> Yes, I've read it and reread it. I was referring to you saying   
   >> 'unspeakable   
   >> croc rumble' was genius. It clearly isn't even inspired.   
   >   
   > Oh it is. Have you ever written a sentence that comes close to being as   
   > funny?   
      
   It's not my job to judge.   
      
   Just to remind you not to widen the argument: we were talking about whether   
   it was genius or not. We were not talking about whether it was funny.   
      
      
    You've never intentionally made me laugh - and I'm not saying   
   > that as a dig   
      
   As you would say, that's first rate.   
      
   , you just seem to have very strong opinions about humour   
   > but find getting your own across a bit of a struggle.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>  Apart   
   >> > from Goodbye to All That, I can't think of another autobiography and   
   >> > very few books that I've enjoyed as much. A smug middle aged luvvie of   
   >> > my acquaintance told me that it was very good of its kind but that John   
   >> > Osborne did the same thing, only better. I duly bought both volumes.   
   >> > WHAT. UTTER. CRAP. It was alright,   
   >>   
   >> I thought you said it was crap.   
   >   
   > I was referring to the opinion of the woman who reccommended it to me.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>  but not even close in terms of   
   >> > quality.   
   >>   
   >> Both books are far more interesting than Martin Amis's life of immense   
   >> privilege. I would have thought an Orwell fan would have been interested   
   >> in   
   >> the rise of a genuine working class talent against the background of the   
   >> mid-twentieth century.   
   >   
   > Like I said, I thought they were alright, but not a patch on   
   > experience. I was less interested in him, and less interested in what   
   > he hsd to say   
      
   What interests you about Amis jnr?   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
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