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   "P.S.Burton"  wrote in message   
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   > ROBBIE wrote:   
   >> "P.S.Burton"  wrote in message   
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   >> > ROBBIE wrote:   
   >> >> "P.S.Burton"  wrote in message   
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   >> >> > ROBBIE wrote:   
   >> >> >> "P.S.Burton"  wrote in message   
   >> >> >> news:1161250379.910828.152030@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   >> >> >> > Experience is a *staggeringly* good book. Probably my favourite   
   >> >> >> > autobiography of all time. It's an absolute corker   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> This statement reminds me of a anecdote in a biography I read of   
   >> >> >> the   
   >> >> >> great   
   >> >> >> Dean Martin (who let's face it gave far more pleasure to far more   
   >> >> >> people   
   >> >> >> than little Mart ever has or will - mind you, you could say that   
   >> >> >> about   
   >> >> >> Hitler probably): a soldier approached Dino one evening as the   
   >> >> >> great   
   >> >> >> man   
   >> >> >> ate   
   >> >> >> in a restaurant in New York in the 50s. He began to gush: '...Mr   
   >> >> >> Martin,   
   >> >> >> your music is so great, it means so much to me, Mr Martin, it's so   
   >> >> >> wonderful. I have so much respect for you, Mr Martin, you know this   
   >> >> >> is   
   >> >> >> how   
   >> >> >> much I respect I have for you, Mr Martin,' at which point he bend   
   >> >> >> down   
   >> >> >> and   
   >> >> >> gave Dino a little kiss on the cheek. Dino murmured: 'keep a little   
   >> >> >> for   
   >> >> >> yourself, pally.'   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> . The bit where he's   
   >> >> >> > talking about a crocodile he saw at the zoo with his sons that   
   >> >> >> > had   
   >> >> >> > been   
   >> >> >> > injured and he says something like "it's entire upper mandible   
   >> >> >> > (approximately a third of its head) was missing, no doubt   
   >> >> >> > wrenched   
   >> >> >> > off   
   >> >> >> > in some unspeakable croc rumble"   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> > "unspeakable croc rumble" = genius.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> Don't. Be. Silly.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > It's very funny, and very moving and very, very well written.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Yes, I've read it and reread it. I was referring to you saying   
   >> >> 'unspeakable   
   >> >> croc rumble' was genius. It clearly isn't even inspired.   
   >> >   
   >> > Oh it is. Have you ever written a sentence that comes close to being as   
   >> > funny?   
   >>   
   >> It's not my job to judge.   
   >>   
   >> Just to remind you not to widen the argument: we were talking about   
   >> whether   
   >> it was genius or not. We were not talking about whether it was funny.   
   >   
   > I was using the word genius in roughly the same way that I might say an   
   > episode of Father Ted was genius.   
      
   Ah. Well, you could have explained that a wee while ago.   
      
   Here's a thought for a philosopher: when language gets corrupted, thought   
   gets corrupted.   
      
      
    More exactly I meant very nicely   
   > phrased, funny and instantly memorable.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>  You've never intentionally made me laugh - and I'm not saying   
   >> > that as a dig   
   >>   
   >> As you would say, that's first rate.   
   >>   
   >> , you just seem to have very strong opinions about humour   
   >> > but find getting your own across a bit of a struggle.   
   >> >   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >>   
   >> >>  Apart   
   >> >> > from Goodbye to All That, I can't think of another autobiography and   
   >> >> > very few books that I've enjoyed as much. A smug middle aged luvvie   
   >> >> > of   
   >> >> > my acquaintance told me that it was very good of its kind but that   
   >> >> > John   
   >> >> > Osborne did the same thing, only better. I duly bought both volumes.   
   >> >> > WHAT. UTTER. CRAP. It was alright,   
   >> >>   
   >> >> I thought you said it was crap.   
   >> >   
   >> > I was referring to the opinion of the woman who reccommended it to me.   
   >> >   
   >> >>   
   >> >>  but not even close in terms of   
   >> >> > quality.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> Both books are far more interesting than Martin Amis's life of immense   
   >> >> privilege. I would have thought an Orwell fan would have been   
   >> >> interested   
   >> >> in   
   >> >> the rise of a genuine working class talent against the background of   
   >> >> the   
   >> >> mid-twentieth century.   
   >> >   
   >> > Like I said, I thought they were alright, but not a patch on   
   >> > experience. I was less interested in him, and less interested in what   
   >> > he hsd to say   
   >>   
   >> What interests you about Amis jnr?   
   >   
   > I like some of his books. I like a lot of his dad's books. I'm   
   > interested in what it's like to become a writer, the decade or so of   
   > graft you have to put in before you even really get started.   
      
   Yeah, I've been going ten years now.   
      
    He's had   
   > an interesting life as and in itself. He's brave about stating his   
   > opinions.   
      
   How do you mean 'brave'?   
      
      
      
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