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   > And here are some choice words from Orwell:   
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   > "The more I see the more I doubt whether people ever really make   
   > aesthetic judgements at all.   
      
   I don't agree.   
      
      
    Everything is judged on political grounds   
   > which are then given an aesthetic disguise.   
      
   Blimey, he must have been having an off day. I nearly bought Godard's Le   
   Mepris for a fiver last week and then I saw a big Godard quote on the cover:   
   'Culture is an alibi for imperialism.'   
      
   What bollocks. I put the film back on the shelf.   
      
      
   When, for instance, Eliot   
   > can't see anything good in Shelley or anything bad in Kipling, the   
   > real underlying reason must be that the one is a radical & the other a   
   > conservative, of sorts.   
      
   That might be true of Eliot - I find it hard to believe he could see *no*   
   good in Shelley - but I still think Orwell's view here is very questionable.   
   I can think of plenty of artists whose political and social ideas I disagree   
   with but whose work I think is praiseworthy. He was living of course in a   
   very conservative culture where he'd probably heard his work dismissed as   
   rubbish because he was ' a bolshie type'.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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