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   ROBBIE to All   
   Re: 'Apologist for the Daily Mail'   
   12 Jun 07 22:32:45   
   
   From: hjkhjkhd@hhhh.com   
      
   "Nigee"  wrote in message   
   news:1181675985.697310.244470@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...   
   > On 11 Jun, 21:32, "ROBBIE"  wrote:   
   >> A co-worker rather contemptuously described me as 'an apologist for the   
   >> Daily Mail' today. Because the office copy happened to have ended up on   
   >> my   
   >> desk - for the first time in many a month. I found his straight-faced   
   >> description of it as 'utterly Nazi' both laughable and juvenile. The   
   >> Daily   
   >> Mail is a rather unpleasant and slightly boorish right-wing tabloid   
   >> newspaper. If you identify that as being 'Nazi' then you have succumbed   
   >> to   
   >> the same kind of hyperbole and exaggeration that fuels boorish right-wing   
   >> tabloids.   
   >>   
   >> As per: nothing to say about the apologists for *brown* fascism one sees   
   >> from time to time in liberal newspapers and from the mayor of London (who   
   >> he   
   >> seems to admire). How are the Mail Nazis I asked. I seem to recall they   
   >> they   
   >> were the most vocal of all tabloids in the drive to catch Stephen   
   >> Lawrence's   
   >> murderers. They even printed the killers faces on the front page and ask   
   >> them to sue if they wanted. He didn't like that.   
   >> 'What about all their stuff about asylum seekers?' he asked, getting   
   >> desperate. 'Well,' I said, 'even the government now admit the system's   
   >> out   
   >> of control'.   
   >>   
   >> He walked off and sat down and said half-serious: 'tut tut, apologist for   
   >> the Daily Mail.'   
   >>   
   >> 'There are worse things to be,' I said.   
   >>   
   >> --   
   >>   
   >> 'When language gets corrupted, thought gets corrupted.'   
   >>   
   >> ROBBIE   
   >   
   > How old was said co-worker?   
      
   Nearly 50.   
      
   Plus, the political, media and legal classes will but rarely awake to find   
   an EU resident doing their job for a quarter of the money. May Allah speed   
   the day that situation arises, for the naked self-interest and protectionism   
   that will follow will come so quick you won't have a chance to say 'Little   
   Englander'.   
      
   >   
   > Yes, the Mail is often nasty and mean-spirited.  I despised it when I   
   > was younger and I don't buy it now.  I buy very few newspapers since   
   > online does me well enough most of the time and who wants to *pay* to   
   > be filled with dread and woe every morning.   
   >   
      
   Yeah, newspapers are going down the pan; the internet will only nominally   
   replace them if you follow me.   
      
   > With a certain maturity, however, I can look past the Mail's   
   > nastiness, as you can, and recognise that this does not mean that it   
   > is automatically wrong about everything.   
      
   Thing is, is that the people who denounce it don't read it. I rarely read it   
   myself. However, practically all the journalists I know - and they are all   
   small or large 'l' liberals consider it an 'awesome' product.   
      
   And there's an irony: education has been liberalised and widened to a huge   
   extent, but I don;t see the Indy and Grauny going up the charts.   
      
      
    Another observation: most of   
   > the people I see reading the Mail seem to me to be people who go out   
   > to work everyday, obey the law, pay taxes, and generally live   
   > restrained, decent, not particularly exciting, lives.  They are not   
   > Nazis.   
      
   Precisely.   
      
   >   
   > See Blair having a pop at the Pissipendent?  He's right but he's got   
   > the brassest of brass faces to start shouting his mouth off about spin   
   > now.   
   >   
      
   I didn't: got a link?   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
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