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   "Nigee"  wrote in message   
   news:1181689071.929564.161520@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...   
   > On 12 Jun, 22:32, "ROBBIE"  wrote:   
   >> "Nigee"  wrote in message   
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   >> news:1181675985.697310.244470@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...   
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   >> > On 11 Jun, 21:32, "ROBBIE"  wrote:   
   >> >> A co-worker rather contemptuously described me as 'an apologist for   
   >> >> the   
   >> >> Daily Mail' today. Because the office copy happened to have ended up   
   >> >> on   
   >> >> my   
   >> >> desk - for the first time in many a month. I found his straight-faced   
   >> >> description of it as 'utterly Nazi' both laughable and juvenile. The   
   >> >> Daily   
   >> >> Mail is a rather unpleasant and slightly boorish right-wing tabloid   
   >> >> newspaper. If you identify that as being 'Nazi' then you have   
   >> >> succumbed   
   >> >> to   
   >> >> the same kind of hyperbole and exaggeration that fuels boorish   
   >> >> right-wing   
   >> >> tabloids.   
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   >> >> As per: nothing to say about the apologists for *brown* fascism one   
   >> >> sees   
   >> >> from time to time in liberal newspapers and from the mayor of London   
   >> >> (who   
   >> >> he   
   >> >> seems to admire). How are the Mail Nazis I asked. I seem to recall   
   >> >> they   
   >> >> they   
   >> >> were the most vocal of all tabloids in the drive to catch Stephen   
   >> >> Lawrence's   
   >> >> murderers. They even printed the killers faces on the front page and   
   >> >> ask   
   >> >> them to sue if they wanted. He didn't like that.   
   >> >> 'What about all their stuff about asylum seekers?' he asked, getting   
   >> >> desperate. 'Well,' I said, 'even the government now admit the system's   
   >> >> out   
   >> >> of control'.   
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   >> >> He walked off and sat down and said half-serious: 'tut tut, apologist   
   >> >> for   
   >> >> the Daily Mail.'   
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   >> >> 'There are worse things to be,' I said.   
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   >> >> --   
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   >> >> 'When language gets corrupted, thought gets corrupted.'   
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   >> >> ROBBIE   
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   >> > How old was said co-worker?   
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   >> Nearly 50.   
   >>   
   >> Plus, the political, media and legal classes will but rarely awake to   
   >> find   
   >> an EU resident doing their job for a quarter of the money. May Allah   
   >> speed   
   >> the day that situation arises, for the naked self-interest and   
   >> protectionism   
   >> that will follow will come so quick you won't have a chance to say   
   >> 'Little   
   >> Englander'.   
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   >> > Yes, the Mail is often nasty and mean-spirited.  I despised it when I   
   >> > was younger and I don't buy it now.  I buy very few newspapers since   
   >> > online does me well enough most of the time and who wants to *pay* to   
   >> > be filled with dread and woe every morning.   
   >>   
   >> Yeah, newspapers are going down the pan; the internet will only nominally   
   >> replace them if you follow me.   
   >>   
   >> > With a certain maturity, however, I can look past the Mail's   
   >> > nastiness, as you can, and recognise that this does not mean that it   
   >> > is automatically wrong about everything.   
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   >> Thing is, is that the people who denounce it don't read it. I rarely read   
   >> it   
   >> myself. However, practically all the journalists I know - and they are   
   >> all   
   >> small or large 'l' liberals consider it an 'awesome' product.   
   >>   
   >> And there's an irony: education has been liberalised and widened to a   
   >> huge   
   >> extent, but I don;t see the Indy and Grauny going up the charts.   
   >>   
   >>  Another observation: most of   
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   >> > the people I see reading the Mail seem to me to be people who go out   
   >> > to work everyday, obey the law, pay taxes, and generally live   
   >> > restrained, decent, not particularly exciting, lives.  They are not   
   >> > Nazis.   
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   >> Precisely.   
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   >>   
   >> > See Blair having a pop at the Pissipendent?  He's right but he's got   
   >> > the brassest of brass faces to start shouting his mouth off about spin   
   >> > now.   
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   >> I didn't: got a link?   
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   >> ROBBIE- Hide quoted text -   
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   > http://politics.guardian.co.uk/tonyblair/story/0,,2101076,00.html   
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   > Full speech:   
   > http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Politics/documents/2007/   
   6/12/BlairReustersSpeech.pdf   
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   > Independent Editor bites back:   
   > http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,2101196,00.html   
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   Yeah cheers - I got it this morning in the Times. What do we learn from   
   this? YOU DON'T LUV ME NO MORE!!!   
      
   Boris was right: Hanging's too good for the cunt.   
      
   ROBBIE   
      
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