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"Martha Bridegam" wrote in message
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> ROBBIE wrote:
>> "Martha Bridegam" wrote in message
>> news:PdKbi.780$vi5.670@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Nigee wrote:
>>>> On 11 Jun, 21:32, "ROBBIE" wrote:
>>>>> A co-worker rather contemptuously described me as 'an apologist for
>>>>> the
>>>>> Daily Mail' today. Because the office copy happened to have ended up
>>>>> on my
>>>>> desk - for the first time in many a month. I found his straight-faced
>>>>> description of it as 'utterly Nazi' both laughable and juvenile. The
>>>>> Daily
>>>>> Mail is a rather unpleasant and slightly boorish right-wing tabloid
>>>>> newspaper. If you identify that as being 'Nazi' then you have
>>>>> succumbed to
>>>>> the same kind of hyperbole and exaggeration that fuels boorish
>>>>> right-wing
>>>>> tabloids.
>>>>>
>>>>> As per: nothing to say about the apologists for *brown* fascism one
>>>>> sees
>>>>> from time to time in liberal newspapers and from the mayor of London
>>>>> (who he
>>>>> seems to admire). How are the Mail Nazis I asked. I seem to recall
>>>>> they they
>>>>> were the most vocal of all tabloids in the drive to catch Stephen
>>>>> Lawrence's
>>>>> murderers. They even printed the killers faces on the front page and
>>>>> ask
>>>>> them to sue if they wanted. He didn't like that.
>>>>> 'What about all their stuff about asylum seekers?' he asked, getting
>>>>> desperate. 'Well,' I said, 'even the government now admit the system's
>>>>> out
>>>>> of control'.
>>>>>
>>>>> He walked off and sat down and said half-serious: 'tut tut, apologist
>>>>> for
>>>>> the Daily Mail.'
>>>>>
>>>>> 'There are worse things to be,' I said.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> 'When language gets corrupted, thought gets corrupted.'
>>>>>
>>>>> ROBBIE
>>>> How old was said co-worker?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the Mail is often nasty and mean-spirited. I despised it when I
>>>> was younger and I don't buy it now. I buy very few newspapers since
>>>> online does me well enough most of the time and who wants to *pay* to
>>>> be filled with dread and woe every morning.
>>>>
>>>> With a certain maturity, however, I can look past the Mail's
>>>> nastiness, as you can, and recognise that this does not mean that it
>>>> is automatically wrong about everything. Another observation: most of
>>>> the people I see reading the Mail seem to me to be people who go out
>>>> to work everyday, obey the law, pay taxes, and generally live
>>>> restrained, decent, not particularly exciting, lives. They are not
>>>> Nazis.
>>>>
>>>> See Blair having a pop at the Pissipendent? He's right but he's got
>>>> the brassest of brass faces to start shouting his mouth off about spin
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>> Without venturing an opinion on any other part of the above, I just want
>>> to point out that most real historical N*zi Party supporters *did* "work
>>> every day, obey the law, pay taxes, and generally live restrained,
>>> decent, not particularly exciting, lives."
>>
>> Supporters is the one word in your speciousade that betrays. I suppose it
>> leads on to that thing of 'well if you didn't go out and get yourself
>> hanged by piano wire opposing it, then you were goddam well for it!' A
>> typical teenage rebel view. That pretty much makes everyone in every
>> country the same as the arseholes in charge - all Americans as
>> Rummy-ites, All Iraqis Saddamites.
>>
>> On the other hand, the krauts are f*cking nuts -- I mean look at your own
>> squarehead militancy and unsinkable sense of righteousness. Why, it's
>> practically Hitler Youth without the sectarianism. The British are not
>> like that. The cultures that are taking root here now unfortunately are.
>>
>> ROBBIE
>
> This conversation is over.
>
> /M
If it's the last line you object to then you can't know much about eastern
Europeans and Mohammedans.
ROBBIE
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