From: joe_f@verizon.net   
      
   "P.S.Burton" writes:   
      
   > On 17 Aug, 04:35, Joe Fineman wrote:   
      
   >> III describes doublethink, but "in their cups" belongs to _Animal   
   >> Farm_ rather than _Nineteen Eighty-Four_.   
   >   
   > judging by his correspondence and his library, orwell didn't read much   
   > philosophy.   
      
   Right. I thought "The Ancestry of Fascism" was the most likely of the   
   four for him to have read.   
      
   > "in their cups" is a very common expression, it just means   
   > pissed (drunk, not angry)   
      
   I know. I was alluding to Russell's use of it:   
      
   >> Only the very highest officials, in their cups, would whisper to   
   >> each other what rubbish it all is; then they would laugh and drink   
   >> again....   
      
   That is reminiscent of some scenes near the end of _Animal Farm_, but   
   not of _Nineteen Eighty-Four_, where the inner party is described as   
   taking Ingsoc more seriously than anyone else.   
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