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   From: jamesd@echeque.com   
      
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   On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:48:48 -0800 (PST), "*Anarcissie*"   
   > However, you're a bit behind on your figures for   
   > Stalin and Mao.  Several years ago they were doubled   
   > every year, and then when they got to two or three   
   > times the ones you're giving, the doublers slowed down   
   > for some reason. Maybe they were afraid of reaching   
   > the total population of the countries in question. But   
   > regardless of the numbers, I would agree that Stalin   
   > and Mao were not very nice people.  I disagree about   
   > them being leftists, however; they may have been   
   > pretend-leftists,   
      
    If you thought they were pretend leftists, you would   
   not be lying and in lying about the crimes of Lenin, Mao   
   and Stalin.   
      
   Critics of communism always said the crimes of communist   
   leaders were about what they were.  You lot responded   
   that they did not kill anyone, then that they maybe   
   killed a few dozen here and there, then a few hundred   
   here and there, who probably deserved it every bit,   
   until finally you were saying maybe a few million here   
   and there, who probably deserved it every bit.  Your   
   admissions have been increasing, not the accusations.   
      
   > Oddly, when I have pointed out that if the same sort   
   > of reasoning which has been applied to Stalin or Mao   
   > is applied to the British government with respect to   
   > Ireland and India, the Brits are in the Pol Pot class   
   > -- the population of Ireland under British rule was   
   > halved between 1835 and 1850,   
      
   The population of Ireland was free to leave, and for the   
   most part did so.  The population of Cambodia was not   
   free to leave.   
      
   Again, if you did not believe that Pol Pot was a   
   leftist, and implemented exactly the program that you   
   intend to implement, you would not be making excuses.   
      
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