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   Fred Williams to All   
   Re: Freedom is freedom   
   24 Dec 09 21:57:35   
   
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   From: fred@frewilliams.FFFfca   
      
   5306 Dead, 439 since 1/20/09 wrote:   
      
   > On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:44:34 -0400, Fred Williams wrote:   
   >   
   >> James A.  Donald wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:06:14 -0400, Fred Williams   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>> They certainly are.  Hitler killed 13 million and no one has ever come   
   >>>> close to breaking that record,   
   >>>   
   >>> Communist artificial famines easily surpass Hitler, so I suppose you   
   >>> are only counting death camps and killing fields.   
   >>>   
   >>> Artificial famines during forced collectivization also greatly surpass   
   >>> Hitler.  These famines being directly coercive, rather than a result of   
   >>> incompetence or negligence, are directly equivalent to killings by   
   >>> death camp and killing field.   
   >>   
   >> "Artificial famines?"  Never heard of that.  You're making this   
   > up.   
   >   
   > Actually, nearly all famines are "artificial".  Oh, there's often natural   
   > causes--drought, fire, flood, disease--but it's always localized, and can   
   > be mitigated by help from authorities and neighboring regions.   
      
   	Then "accidental" as well.  Fine.   
      
   --   
   Regards,   
   Fred   
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