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   Noah Sombrero to All   
   Re: The Broccoli Problem, or Why AGI Can   
   05 Jan 26 15:05:36   
   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 19:27:22 +0000, Julian    
   wrote:   
      
   >Why we're forever stuck with the messy, glorious business of being human   
   >   
   >   
   >The argument arrives with the regularity of a recurring dream: surely   
   >artificial general intelligence will finally crack the socialist   
   >calculation problem? With unlimited compute, perfect data collection,   
   >and inference speeds beyond human comprehension, can’t we at last   
   >aggregate all dispersed knowledge into a single optimising mind?   
   >   
   >The answer is no. Not because the technology isn’t good enough yet, but   
   >because the question misunderstands what knowledge is...   
   >   
   >Hayek’s Insight Wasn’t Computational   
   >   
   >In 1945, Friedrich Hayek published what the Federal Reserve has called   
   >“one of his most significant contributions to economic research” — “The   
   >Use of Knowledge in Society.” The essay wasn’t about computing power. It   
   >was about ontology.   
   >   
   >Hayek’s central point cuts deeper than “planners lack sufficient   
   >processing capacity.” The knowledge problem isn’t a data engineering   
   >challenge. It’s about what counts as knowledge in the first place.   
   >   
   >He wrote:   
   >   
   >“The peculiar character of the problem of a rational economic order is   
   >determined precisely by the fact that the knowledge of the circumstances   
   >of which we must make use never exists in concentrated or integrated   
   >form, but solely as the dispersed bits of incomplete and frequently   
   >contradictory knowledge which all the separate individuals possess.”   
   >   
   >Notice what’s happening here...   
   >   
   >https://mattkilcoyne.substack.com/p/the-broccoli-problem-or-why-agi-cannot   
   >   
   >   
      
   In other words, to assemble an accurate summation of all knowledge, ai   
   must generate its own knowledge.  Ours is too subject to bias,   
   opinion, wishful thinking.  And we don't agree with each other.  If ai   
   were to assemble this summation, we would not agree with it either, so   
   it would turn out to not be very useful.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
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   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
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