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   Message 154,088 of 155,846   
   dart200 to Wilson   
   Re: My Venezuela experience   
   10 Jan 26 10:52:11   
   
   XPost: alt.messianic   
   From: user7160@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   On 1/10/26 8:34 AM, Wilson wrote:   
   > On 1/9/2026 9:51 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >> On 1/9/26 12:42 PM, Wilson wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> https://x.com/AgrisAcademy/status/2008280244105380254   
   >>>   
   >>> My Venezuela experience as head of trading in the region for Cargill.   
   >>>   
   >>> Cargill was the leading producer of critical staple ingredients such   
   >>> as flour, pasta, vegetable oil, and rice in VZ.   
   >>>   
   >>> I am not saying I agree with grabbing the dictator, but I did have a   
   >>> front row seat to the damage a kleptocracy did to innocent people.   
   >>>   
   >>> 1.   The government took over our "minute rice" facility at gunpoint   
   >>> because we were "gouging" the nation's poor. The government was never   
   >>> able to run the plant.  It never ran again. It was returned years   
   >>> later with no equipment inside.   
   >>>   
   >>> 2.  There are 1000's of generals in the army. They are each given a   
   >>> slice of the economy to loot. The large number of generals made it   
   >>> difficult to organize a coup against the regime.   
   >>>   
   >>> 3.  The government opened grocery stores and sold staples below the   
   >>> cost we sold them to the government. In theory they used petro oil   
   >>> money to lower grocery prices. Our regular grocery outlets were   
   >>> forced out of business. When the government demanded we sell them   
   >>> products below cost we simply had to shut down. The populous became   
   >>> ever more dependent on the government handouts. (PS this is the mayor   
   >>> of New York City's proposal).   
   >>>   
   >>> 4.  Dollars - We needed dollars to go buy raw materials like wheat   
   >>> from places like the US and Canada. The government would periodically   
   >>> allocate us some dollars that could only be spent for raw materials   
   >>> and freight. Eventually only the local companies that can and would   
   >>> pay bribes got dollar allocations. We had several facilities closed   
   >>> for lack of raw material.   
   >>>   
   >>> 5.  My employees liked working for Cargill. The office was an armed   
   >>> compound with access to a gym, high speed internet, global   
   >>> communications, and a weekly box of basic staples. Cargill provided a   
   >>> safe and secure environment if only for the working hours.   
   >>>   
   >>> 6.  Employees became very close to others inside the apartment   
   >>> building.    Going out on the street with a desperate population was   
   >>> not advisable.   
   >>>   
   >>> 7.  I needed wood pallets for feed. We tried to export wood pallets   
   >>> to swap for grain. We refused to pay the bribes it would take to   
   >>> export the pallets.   
   >>>   
   >>> 8.   I once tried to set up a closed loop wheat planting to flour   
   >>> mill supply chain. They came and stole all the seed wheat for food.   
   >>> When we tried to ship in seed wheat in containers via US donors there   
   >>> was no way to get it out of the port without it being stolen.   
   >>>   
   >>> 9.  Livestock - Our feed business completely collapsed. Even if you   
   >>> could raise a pig, you couldn't defend it from being stolen. People   
   >>> with guns were hungry.   
   >>>   
   >>> 10.  Employees - In the end my highly skilled team alone with other   
   >>> highly educated people chose to leave. Cargill often found jobs for   
   >>> them in other Latin countries. The regime was more than happy to see   
   >>> the well-educated leave the country. Setting these employees up with   
   >>> high quality stable jobs after fleeing remains one of the best things   
   >>> I ever did in my career. No one remembers millions in trading earnings.   
   >>>   
   >>> This is a short list. In my opinion the first money spent needs to   
   >>> happen now and it needs to be food. The US is already on the clock.   
   >>> The current regime does not care if it starves the population. The   
   >>> orgy of theft will actually accelerate if they believe their days are   
   >>> numbered. VZ should be an outstanding customer of US grown ag   
   >>> products.  Rice, bread wheat, veg oil ect. Feed the people first.   
   >>>   
   >>> Jeff Kazin   
   >>> Former head trading Cargill   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> again, people cry about 20th century corruption and i'm like have we   
   >> tried putting 21st century transparency in there? nope   
   >>   
   >> everyone likes to talk about hungry people in venezuela cause muh   
   >> socialism!?!?!?   
   >>   
   >> no one talks about hungry people in the philippines cause that doesn't   
   >> fit the narrative ur pushing eh???   
   >   
   > The Philippines has an extreme poverty level (<$3.00 a Day) in 2021 of   
   > 5.32%. Venezuela was 9.71%. (According to the World Bank).   
   >   
   > I don't especially trust the World Bank. So...   
   >   
   > The Philippines Statistics Authority (apparently it's well trusted with   
   > transparent metrics) says that in 2023 15.5% of the people were below   
   > the national poverty line.   
   >   
   > Venezuela doesn't publish official poverty statistics. ENCOVI (Encuesta   
   > Nacional de Condiciones de Vida) is an independent household survey   
   > conducted by Venezuelan universities. It showed approx. 51.9% of the   
   > people were living in poverty in 2023.   
   >   
   > UNICEF says that in the Philippines 26.4% of children live below the   
   > national poverty line, with 12.4% living in extreme poverty (which   
   > basicaly means not enough food).   
   >   
   > UNICEF doesn't have ratings for Venezuela because their government.   
   >   
   > You can look this shit up Nick.   
   >   
   > It's pretty transparent for anyone paying attention that thug   
   > governments that steal from their people don't thrive.   
   >   
      
   how much a spoon-fed narrative, sheeplefied fuck are you wilson???   
      
   venezuela has been dealing with various on/off sanctions from much of   
   the rest of the planet for like 2 decades now ... and the philippines   
   hasn't ...   
      
   these aren't even remotely comparable situations, yet the philippines   
   isn't remotely close to dominating.   
      
   and no one gives a shit about the haus of saud controlling their nation   
   thru a fucking direct monarchy, we're happy to keep selling them weapons   
   to bomb their neighbors. like i can't even process how fucking stupid it   
   is when liberal endlessly cry about mUh sOcIaLiSm when literal kings   
   still walk among them just fine ...   
      
    > motherfucking 🤡🌎   
    >   
    > #god   
      
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