Actually Dubya had tried some "ownership society" initiatives that would   
   decrease debt. ie, Islamic finance doesn't use mortgages, but the bank   
   co-owns your house. And muslims give their managers a share of the profits   
   instead of a salary. Greek diners do the same, they start the diner up then   
   let some muslim guy run it in exchange for half the profits. Profit sharing   
   and employe stock ownership is very anti-usury. But options are not.   
      
      
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