From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 18:47:33 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
      
   >On 1/10/2026 10:29 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 09:59:00 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 1/10/2026 7:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 10:05:29 -0500, Noah Sombrero    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sat, 10 Jan 2026 00:18:25 -0800, dart200   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Using the biblical definition:  lending money for interest (any   
   >>>>> interest)?  No doubt.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> so like, we are then addicted to usury...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> this is just the state of the species?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> One wonders how a hunter gatherer species evolved such tendencies?  It   
   >>>>> is too soon to decide that h/g behaviors have evolved out of us.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The bible specifically says a number of times that those who reap but   
   >>>> do not sow are a particularly pernicious evil.   
   >>>>   
   >>> Condemned in Abrahamic faiths, Judaism, Christianity, Islam.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why?   
   >>>   
   >>> Exploiting the poor.   
   >>   
   >> Not exactly.  A person who has a million in the stock market and no   
   >> job, makes another million.  Has he exploited me?  I think it has more   
   >> to do with the influences of attitudes and the abillity to influence   
   >> attitudes.   
   >>   
   >Wait! What?   
   > >   
   >>> However, the Reformation distinguished between usury and low-interest   
   >>> lending, which is acceptable.   
   >>   
   >> See, that is what we do, we interpret what it actually says to suit   
   >> what we insist on doing anyway.   
   >>   
   >See, the Reformation changed all that. Before, nobody was allowed to   
   >read, or even see, the scriptures, unless maybe you were a monk who   
   >could read Latin.   
   > >   
   > > People who insist that the earth is only 8000 years old and the   
   >garden> of eden story must have a literal interpretation still buy into that   
   >> game when it suits them.   
   >>   
   >Apparently, there are no Lutherans on this list.   
   > >   
   >> Me, I think the garden of eden story is allegory.  Something about how   
   >> learning the difference between g&e allowed humans to choose e.  The   
   >> actual details of the stories in the bible are not significant, but   
   >> hidden in the fig leaves truth peeks out at us.   
   >>   
   >You should know the truth and the truth will set you free." - John 8:32   
   > >   
   >> And there are excellent reasons for not allowing usury.  Not that we   
   >> will do that at all, ever.   
   >>   
   >Usury is illegal in the U.S., and it is regulated by the states. What   
   >happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!   
   > >   
   >   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You have to give the devil his due, sometimes the bible is right.   
   >>>>   
   >>> There's no free lunch. If you didn't pay for it, you're the commodity.   
   >>   
   >> Not necessarily.  I can testify that homeless people who eat in   
   >> community kitchens are not a commodity.   
   > >   
   >You just made homeless people who eat in community kitchens a commodity.   
      
   Nonsense.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
   <<>> to <<>>   
   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
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