From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 01:31:52 -0800, dart200   
    wrote:   
      
   >On 1/11/26 3:36 PM, vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:   
   >> *+-how would we fund consumerism tho???   
   >>   
   >> All the economists, right and left thik consumer spending is unproductive,   
   >> which is why they would prefer a consumtion tax over an income tax.   
   >   
   >consumers buying things is unproductive?? what in the fuck is the point   
   >of the economy even?? to make things that aren't consumed??   
   >   
   >consumer spending is supposed to be the fucking bedrock guidance of the   
   >economic engine, that's the how the market is supposed to work. if   
   >consumers can't spend ... how in the fuck do we know what to produce, eh???   
   >   
   >ofc we wouldn't need usury to fund consumer spending if they were paid   
   >more fairly regardless of whether we tax them or not. idk why ur   
   >bringing up tax that ain't the question here   
   >   
   >>   
   >> Discourage consumprion, encourage income.   
   >>   
   >> THe problem is the right doesn't trust the left with two taxes.  THey want   
   >> the left to admit defeat and repeal the income tax amendment first.  But   
   >> tariffs are primarily how the USA was financed before an income tax.   
   >   
   >i want us to stop using the federal govt, to do things that should be   
   >state level orchestration. the feds were supposed to be a *limited*   
   >power govt, not governing everything power govt   
   >   
   > > and fuck tariffs, eh??   
   > >   
   > > #god   
   >   
   >like bro ... u telling me the richest most powerful country on the   
   >planet can't complete on the open market without tariffs??? where's the   
   >permanent state of many tariffs edition of us "capitalism"???   
   >   
   >fucking ??   
      
   Usury is an integral part of this system.  No way could consumerism   
   generate wealth for a few if they couldn't use money to make more   
   money.   
      
   consumerism   
   tariffs   
   various tax schemes   
   politics   
      
   Something is wrong with this system.  Perhaps we could think of a new   
   one that has not been tried before.  Because, so far, nothing works   
   long term, which is why we are here fussing about the system that we   
   are left with after the others failed.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain   
   Don't get political with me young man   
   or I'll tie you to a railroad track and   
   <<>> to <<>>   
   Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?   
   dares: Ned   
   does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)