From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/14/2026 8:39 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 08:24:37 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/14/2026 8:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 07:47:58 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 1/13/2026 8:06 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 19:40:25 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/12/2026 5:35 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>> tax the fuck out of the rich, literally just give it to the poor, so   
   >>>>>>> they drive the bus in ways that actually help people.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's easy for you to say, you've got no skin in the game.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The main flaw in your logic is you negate the principle that everyone   
   >>>>>> should be equal under the law, including taxation on income.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In fact, wealthy people give the most to charity and pay the majority of   
   >>>>>> the US income tax.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Arguments against increasing taxes on the rich center primarily on   
   >>>>>> negative economic impacts, such as disincentivizing investment and   
   >>>>>> innovation. And, the risk of capital flight, as pointed out by Wilson.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Plus, the logistical difficulty of implementation would be practically   
   >>>>>> impossible.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Not practically but certainly politically.  What you are asking is for   
   >>>>> people who have the power in society to somehow allow something   
   >>>>> contrary to their self interest.  Never going to happen, and once   
   >>>>> again points to the problem with libertarianism.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Wait! What?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You want to "tax the fuck out of the rich, literally just give it to the   
   >>>> poor, so they drive the bus in ways that actually help people."   
   >>>   
   >>> Tax  the fuck out of the rich.  That's the trick the rich folks like   
   >>> to play.  Amounts that are pocket change to them seem like huge   
   >>> amounts to the rest of us.  So rich folks wail and moan as if they   
   >>> were actually being hurt, and some of us fall for it.   
   >>>   
   >> It has been already proved by the data that the more you tax the   
   >> wealthy, the less tax is actually collected. The higher the taxes on the   
   >> wealthy, the more loop holes to avoid paying will be found. Wealthy   
   >> people donate the most to charity and pay most of the federal income tax.   
   >   
   > Which shows how legislators want to seem to be taxing them, but   
   > provide legal ways to avoid it.  That does not mean there are not many   
   > not so legal ways.   
   >   
   > All of which does not mean that wealth should not be taxed.  It only   
   > means we need to get serious about taxation.   
   >   
   So. let me be clear - I am opposed to progressive income taxation, but   
   it would be fair if everyone paid an equal and flat income tax. However,   
   I not opposed to a consumption tax, especially on Canadian whiskey.   
      
   Let's just be fair!   
    >   
      
   >> If you're unemployed, you pay zero income tax. In your case, you may pay   
   >> the Crown.   
   >>   
   >>   
      
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