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   Dude to Noah Sombrero   
   Re: would banning usury cause our econom   
   15 Jan 26 09:40:17   
   
   From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/14/2026 9:46 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 09:16:22 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/14/2026 8:39 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 08:24:37 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 1/14/2026 8:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 07:47:58 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 1/13/2026 8:06 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 19:40:25 -0800, Dude  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On 1/12/2026 5:35 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> tax the fuck out of the rich, literally just give it to the poor, so   
   >>>>>>>>> they drive the bus in ways that actually help people.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> That's easy for you to say, you've got no skin in the game.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> The main flaw in your logic is you negate the principle that everyone   
   >>>>>>>> should be equal under the law, including taxation on income.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> In fact, wealthy people give the most to charity and pay the majority   
   of   
   >>>>>>>> the US income tax.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Arguments against increasing taxes on the rich center primarily on   
   >>>>>>>> negative economic impacts, such as disincentivizing investment and   
   >>>>>>>> innovation. And, the risk of capital flight, as pointed out by Wilson.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Plus, the logistical difficulty of implementation would be practically   
   >>>>>>>> impossible.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Not practically but certainly politically.  What you are asking is for   
   >>>>>>> people who have the power in society to somehow allow something   
   >>>>>>> contrary to their self interest.  Never going to happen, and once   
   >>>>>>> again points to the problem with libertarianism.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Wait! What?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> You want to "tax the fuck out of the rich, literally just give it to the   
   >>>>>> poor, so they drive the bus in ways that actually help people."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Tax  the fuck out of the rich.  That's the trick the rich folks like   
   >>>>> to play.  Amounts that are pocket change to them seem like huge   
   >>>>> amounts to the rest of us.  So rich folks wail and moan as if they   
   >>>>> were actually being hurt, and some of us fall for it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> It has been already proved by the data that the more you tax the   
   >>>> wealthy, the less tax is actually collected. The higher the taxes on the   
   >>>> wealthy, the more loop holes to avoid paying will be found. Wealthy   
   >>>> people donate the most to charity and pay most of the federal income tax.   
   >>>   
   >>> Which shows how legislators want to seem to be taxing them, but   
   >>> provide legal ways to avoid it.  That does not mean there are not many   
   >>> not so legal ways.   
   >>>   
   >>> All of which does not mean that wealth should not be taxed.  It only   
   >>> means we need to get serious about taxation.   
   >>>   
   >> So. let me be clear - I am opposed to progressive income taxation, but   
   >> it would be fair if everyone paid an equal and flat income tax. However,   
   >> I not opposed to a consumption tax, especially on Canadian whiskey.   
   >   
   > The tax that a minimum wage earner could afford would not be fair for   
   > a ceo who gets paid million/billions yearly.   
   >   
   In all fairness, it's your choice, your responsibility.   
    >   
      
   >> Let's just be fair!   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>>> If you're unemployed, you pay zero income tax. In your case, you may pay   
   >>>> the Crown.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
      
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