From: punditster@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/14/2026 9:51 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   > On Wed, 14 Jan 2026 11:51:50 -0500, Wilson    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 1/13/2026 6:53 PM, Dude wrote:   
   >>> On 1/13/2026 1:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 16:37:06 -0500, Wilson    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> While you're rebuilding all of the leftists and humanity too, take a   
   >>>>> moment to look at what it takes to incentivize people to do things that   
   >>>>> everyone else thinks are probably impossible but in the end provide   
   >>>>> immense value.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> you mean like michaelangelo's sistine chapel, or steve job's iphone?   
   >>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It seems that mike did his chapel without needing to be motivated by   
   >>>> extreme wealth.   
   >>>>   
   >>   
   >>> Apparently, Michelangelo was paid handsomely for painting the Sistine   
   >>> Chapel ceiling, receiving 3,000 ducats from Pope Julius II for the four-   
   >>> year project (1508-1512), a significant sum equivalent to millions in   
   >>> today's money.   
   >>   
   >> Hey now, don't go and get all facty with Bimbo Sombrero.   
   >   
   > Google sez   
   >   
   > 11 troy ounces of gold weight… so 3,000 ducats is roughly $530,000 at   
   > today's gold price.   
   >   
   You forgot to account for the labor expenses: so the gold is worth 3,000   
   ducats, but in order to paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel today   
   would cost a lot more.   
    > > Which is not millions or billions.  I would say, a reasonable price   
   > for his ability and accomplishment.   
    >   
   "Labour earnings conversion (What is this worth relative to the wages of   
   the average worker?) gives us a much higher value of £4,582,000 - that’s   
   $6,238,471, including a really cheap tip.   
      
   That’s what that sum meant to the audience in the cheap seats at the   
   Globe in 1603; serious, believable yet unattainable money. BUT WAIT!   
      
   Economic status conversion (I’ve got all these ducats - how rich do I   
   feel at this point in history?) makes each ducat is worth $3790.92.   
      
   By that last and most dramatic measure, those 3000 ducats are worth   
   £8,353,000 - in US dollars, $11,372,751.50." - Quora   
      
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